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Oddvar R
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Verified Steel String Singer

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Hi. Is there a verified Steel String Singer layout?
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Which one? They were all kind of different.
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Anyone of them?
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Yes and no. There are 2-3 layouts and some schematics in the files section. Then there is the whole Mayer amp thing which is a SSS with out the step filters. I've built 2 SSS and letf detailed build logs in my posts, others have done the same, play with "search" and you'll find what you need. IMO, it's better to follow a successful build than to search for definitive documentation.
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Oddvar R wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:36 pm Hi. Is there a verified Steel String Singer layout?
Reminds me of the guy that always walks into the party late and asks? Who's got the dope. :lol:

At the very top of the "Dumble files section" there is a post that says "Steel String Singer #001/#002/#004
Layouts Schematics" That's a good one :lol:
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talbany wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:15 pm
Oddvar R wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:36 pm Hi. Is there a verified Steel String Singer layout?
Reminds me of the guy that always walks into the party late and asks? Who's got the dope. :lol:

At the very top of the "Dumble files section" there is a post that says "Steel String Singer #001/#002/#004
Layouts Schematics" That's a good one :lol:
It wouldn't be me though, I don't go to parties anymore.

But the reason I am asking is that there is a notification on top of those layouts saying "unconfirmed", so I was hoping for some advise here, since amps are part of my dope syndrome..
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Well this forum is a party of sorts, and "dope" is another term for reliable information, so...

Seriously, I agree with dreric's comment above re following a successful build.
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But the reason I am asking is that there is a notification on top of those layouts saying "unconfirmed", so I was hoping for some advise here, since amps are part of my dope syndrome..
OK so to get this straight you want a 'confirmed layout" of one of the most expensive/coveted and well protected amps on the planet along with one of the most complex amps Dumble ever made that were all built differently ( Depending on the player) and only about a dozen exist?

Advice= Consider yourself lucky to even find a gut shot of an original SSS much less a "confirmed layout"

BTW. It was an analogy :D Not implying you do dope or go to parties
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talbany wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:08 am
But the reason I am asking is that there is a notification on top of those layouts saying "unconfirmed", so I was hoping for some advise here, since amps are part of my dope syndrome..
OK so to get this straight you want a 'confirmed layout" of one of the most expensive/coveted and well protected amps on the planet along with one of the most complex amps Dumble ever made that were all built differently ( Depending on the player) and only about a dozen exist?

Advice= Consider yourself lucky to even find a gut shot of an original SSS much less a "confirmed layout"

BTW. It was an analogy :D Not implying you do dope or go to parties
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The straight thing here is: I was basically wondering if the layout was complete in the sense that the finished amp would work when turned on? Not a verification on the truthfulness to the original amps.
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Oddvar R wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:23 am
talbany wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:08 am
But the reason I am asking is that there is a notification on top of those layouts saying "unconfirmed", so I was hoping for some advise here, since amps are part of my dope syndrome..
OK so to get this straight you want a 'confirmed layout" of one of the most expensive/coveted and well protected amps on the planet along with one of the most complex amps Dumble ever made that were all built differently ( Depending on the player) and only about a dozen exist?

Advice= Consider yourself lucky to even find a gut shot of an original SSS much less a "confirmed layout"

BTW. It was an analogy :D Not implying you do dope or go to parties
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The straight thing here is: I was basically wondering if the layout was complete in the sense that the finished amp would work when turned on? Not a verification on the truthfulness to the original amps.
Oh if that's what you mean, I believe the 01/02/etc were all built before by forum members. There are multiple people that have built SSS's based on these layout's/schems and they work.

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Oddvar R wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:23 am
The straight thing here is: I was basically wondering if the layout was complete in the sense that the finished amp would work when turned on? Not a verification on the truthfulness to the original amps.
If you're looking for confirmed as in verified that the amp will operate (and safely/reliably), I believe the two most "verified" in that sense are: Hartman's SSS layout, and Ryan Colgan's SSS #002 layout. Hartman's is available here: https://ampgarage.com/forum/download/file.php?id=54142, and Ryan's is available here: https://github.com/colganr/steel-string ... Layout.pdf. Which one to choose depends on what you're looking for--Ryan's is a faithful reproduction of #002, whereas I believe Hartman's is a blend of two different SSS amps (#004 and #002), not necessarily an exact clone of any particular one.
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jfs322 wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:08 am
Oddvar R wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:23 am
The straight thing here is: I was basically wondering if the layout was complete in the sense that the finished amp would work when turned on? Not a verification on the truthfulness to the original amps.
If you're looking for confirmed as in verified that the amp will operate (and safely/reliably), I believe the two most "verified" in that sense are: Hartman's SSS layout, and Ryan Colgan's SSS #002 layout. Hartman's is available here: https://ampgarage.com/forum/download/file.php?id=54142, and Ryan's is available here: https://github.com/colganr/steel-string ... Layout.pdf. Which one to choose depends on what you're looking for--Ryan's is a faithful reproduction of #002, whereas I believe Hartman's is a blend of two different SSS amps (#004 and #002), not necessarily an exact clone of any particular one.
Thanks a lot, they look really beautiful, but a great deal of handful too...
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Oddvar R wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:27 am Thanks a lot, they look really beautiful, but a great deal of handful too...
Well I mean, SSS amps are known to be very complex amps. Were you expecting something different? If you’re not an experienced builder, I would recommend starting with something easier first...
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Complexity wise, I would put them on par with a Twin reverb. The biggest hurdle with a SSS type build is having to fab the boards and chassis stuff. I know a few guys here have offered chassis but these are not like Fender amps where you can buy a predrilled board easily. In the spirit of the "real" SSS amps each one leaves a lot of personal interpretation and fab on the table to complete the amp. I think that's what make them special though.
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So I have started sourcing for the 002 build, it will be my amp build no 17. I recon to be finished by Christmas.

By the way, what switch is this, never seen that one before?
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