VVR (cathode bias) suitable for preamp fixed bias amp
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Thanks! Will look into it and report back.
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Martin, would it be possible for you to draw the above in the layout I posted earlier?
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Electrically it would go like this, but you could locate the 100n cap/1M resistor pairs near the tube sockets.
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Wow thanks Martin, what service!
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It works flawlessly! Completely silent and no popping sounds from TB pedals.
Do any of the named parts need to comply to a certain standard besides the values?
Do any of the named parts need to comply to a certain standard besides the values?
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I would just use good quality film caps and metal film resistors. The voltage rating does not need to be very high since they are on grid leads, but I would choose 200-600V caps.
This is an interesting experiment. Do you like the sound you are getting? Does it change dramatically from low to high voltage settings?
This is an interesting experiment. Do you like the sound you are getting? Does it change dramatically from low to high voltage settings?
Re: VVR (cathode bias) suitable for preamp fixed bias amp
I will use orange drops then. Can you explain why you suggest 100n for de cap?martin manning wrote:I would just use good quality film caps and metal film resistors. The voltage rating does not need to be very high since they are on grid leads, but I would choose 200-600V caps.
This is an interesting experiment. Do you like the sound you are getting? Does it change dramatically from low to high voltage settings?
I like the sound that I'm getting a lot. I can only test at room level, but I like it so far. It's so much more lively. My pedals also all sound amazing.
Concerning the high- and the low voltage, there is about the same difference; no dramatic difference.
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The value of the caps is large to avoid rolling off any low frequency content. You might not notice any difference using 47n or even 22n caps; try it and see.
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Thanks Martin. Please explain 'low frequency content'.martin manning wrote:The value of the caps is large to avoid rolling off any low frequency content. You might not notice any difference using 47n or even 22n caps; try it and see.
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Low frequency content is bass notes. A cap-resistor combination as used here to keep DC off of the guitar pots and amp volume pot makes a low-pass filter, which will have the effect of reducing the bass as the value of the cap is reduced.
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Thanks, less complicated than I thought.martin manning wrote:Low frequency content is bass notes. A cap-resistor combination as used here to keep DC off of the guitar pots and amp volume pot makes a low-pass filter, which will have the effect of reducing the bass as the value of the cap is reduced.
I used 22n orange drops because I had them lying around. It sounds great, but I wouldn't want to change the tonal character of the amp. Do you think 22n is too much or shouldn't it matter? I tried 100n, 68n, 33n and 22n and I couldn't hear any difference. But I tested at room-level, so could be different in live situations.
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You can make a quick calc of the frequency where such a filter will reduce the power level by half: 1/(2*Pi*R*C), or 159155/(k ohms * nF). For a 1M resistor and 22n cap, the so-called corner frequency is 7.2 Hz, but the roll-off actually begins a couple of octaves higher, so around 30 Hz. I think you are fine using 22n.
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Thanks Martin, impressive stuff!
I read somewhere 'not to use a cap of lower value than the largest coupling cap in the amp circuit'.
Is this true?
I read somewhere 'not to use a cap of lower value than the largest coupling cap in the amp circuit'.
Is this true?
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You can't generalize like that. in each specific instance the surrounding circuitry affects the frequency response.