Fragile Harmonics - Not so crazy after all? =D

[Max]

I have not studied Digital formats for quite a while now so they may have overcome some of these issues perhaps someone can clarify if it has..

Hi Tony,

Here I've attached a file with a report on the new Fraunhofer HD-AAC Codec, a great example for an application of psychoacoustics.

Here's a short HD-AAC vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JESMLDu_AyM

BTW: I always liked the way the TC 2290 did the A/D - D/A converting and still use it in Dumble loops with confidence.

file source: http://www.iqmagazineonline.com/IQ/IQ23 ... s36-41.pdf

Cheers,

Max

[ampdork]

Interesting link.


Of course has not lossless audio compression codecs existed for years?

I believe the dead heads again with there damn collections of shows were one fo the first to push for an adopt lossless audio compression.

In fact I still have hundreds of shows on SHN disc from over 10 years ago. Absolutely lossless and can be verified by MD5 checksums.

BTW Max you and others may appreciative the sound systems discussed in this clip.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzuZtW6kX00

Here is a link the a discussion fo the wall of sound....Easily the world largest sound system ever designed and employed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PODPgBai ... re=related

[CHIP]

I thought it was "I'm very bored".

Me too!

[Structo]

I love that old McIntosh tube stuff.
That 60 year anniversary amp is awesome!

I'm still trying to talk a buddie out of a couple McIntosh mono block amps.
As far as I know they are collecting dust in his garage.

I was never into the Grateful Dead per say although I enjoyed a lot of their songs.
I was aware of the wall of sound but didn't really know much about it.

Was Bob Weir responsible for getting the band into that system?

Some day I hope to own a McIntosh Hi Fi set up.

What is weird, is I always thought of The Dead as a fairly simple band and good basic songs.
Seeing that high tech PA system makes them seemed very advanced and high tech and that was 20-30 years ago.

[les_guitar]

He was doing an ad for their new 7500.00 portable system.

[ampdork]

Yeah no it was not Bobby that got them into Mcintosh but Stanley Owsley.

The wall of sound is an incredible achievement imho. You could fill a stadium with sound yet you could put your ear directly against any single driver without fear of damaging you hearing in the least.

They were really simple band with simple songs....till you get about half way through the show.

Yeah as far they gear goes they were light years ahead of anything else out there. They funded a lot of aspiring companies and ideas that no one else would have. The results of which are in every major studio and and most any venue using a modern PA system.
Yeah they are a bunch of drug addled hippie dippies... but there is no doubt they pushed the audio scene very hard and I guess they had enough money to get results.

[boldaslove6789]

Yeah no it was not Bobby that got them into Mcintosh but Stanley Owsley.

Stanley Owsly, the one who lit up the Monterey Pop Festival with Purple Monterey/Owsly Acid?

What is weird, is I always thought of The Dead as a fairly simple band and good basic songs.

Some of the Deads songs are downright hard to play with a 6 piece band, they Orchestrated sooo much music, its amazing that they remembered all the songs and wrote new material up till the mid 90's (Jerry's untimely death).Most bands from that era rehashed their songs for 20 years, The dead has more intricate songs than one can even fathom.

[Structo]

Wasn't the guy's name Owsley Stanley?

The bass guitar was amazing, it had a PA channel for each string!


I'm just very ignorant of a lot of things about the Dead.

I know they were all brilliant musicians.

My musical interests were in a different direction then but I always liked a lot of their songs.

[ampdork]

Yep Bear (Owsley) was the man who turned on a generation....better living through chemistry and all that.


Yeah and I was pretty much dumbing down the musicality part.

A little Help on the Way into Slipknot is usually enough to show that indeed they could play their asses off.

[boldaslove6789]

Yep Bear (Owsley) was the man who turned on a generation....better living through chemistry and all that.


Yeah and I was pretty much dumbing down the musicality part.

A little Help on the Way into Slipknot is usually enough to show that indeed they could play their asses off.

+1

[guitardude57]

I've seen gobs of Dead shows over the years. The wall was a great system, but was replaced by a even better sounding more conventional system. Meyers stuff.

Was good enough for Sinatra over the years too!

A couple bands I had in Chicago, where I grew up..... played a bunch of Dead tunes......was a lot of fun for sure.

Good to see other tune in and drop outs here!!! LOL!

[Max]

I love that old McIntosh tube stuff.

Hi Tom,

just to avoid misunderstandings:

"Note: the amplifiers used were all identical dual channel 300 watts per channel solid state type with matching transformers except for one each in the vocal and drum system which were Tube type at 350 watts, and operated the tweeters." source: http://www.dozin.com/wallofsound/index.html

AFAIR they used around 90 of these SS amps and only an handful of tube amps for the wall of sound.

Here’s a picture of a SS McIntosh MC 2300 as used by Jerry Garcia to amplify his Twin pre:

http://www.berners.ch/McIntosh/Downloads/MC2300_own.pdf

As you may know he used a SS buffer amp in his guitar.

If you should be interested in Grateful Dead gear: http://www.dozin.com/gearheads.html

Have fun,

Max

[glasman]

I was reading over the specs on the 2300, damn impressive.

Full output down to a load of .5 ohms!!! Lets see modern stuff that will handle that much current.....

[glasman]

..... and still deliver full power at 16 ohms.... I smell anoutput transformer. (didn't make it past the spec sheet)....

[talbany]

Full output down to a load of .5 ohms

WOW! .5 That's SICK!!...THX..Gary

Wonder what the specs are for wire in the OPT

Tony