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Tag,

Your going to start a ruckus with those clips over here.

Don't upset the apple cart...........or Lerner will ban you for life.(':wink:')
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Tag wrote:Here is Dumble #183 doing Politician. No Dumblator, no special cables, just straight in. SM57 stuck dead center into a TwoRock cab. Delay added at board. Sorry for the digital clipping, as I had it to hot. PRS Artist 3 guitar. Second clip is with a335 into G12 H30s (Digital clipping, to hot) Third is a great sounding TwoRock E.Pro same way. Very similar tones with a lot of straing right from the amp.

http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... i&newref=1




http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... 69948&q=hi



TwoRock E.Pro doing it.

http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... i&newref=1
"Dumbles rule while your other amps drool" all kidding aside #183 is one great sounding amp and you've yet to post anything else anywhere that sounds better. JMHO
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Great tone Tag! :D

Guess what? The Dumble wins!
But you knew that or you wouldn't have bought it.

The Emmy was a bit smoother and not so much in your face as the Dumble.

The Mesa was clipping pretty bad so I can't really judge that.

You set the bar pretty high with the Dumble! :lol:

What power tubes are you using in #183?
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Well, if we are voting I am for 1,3,2 in that order. On Clip #1 the amp just seems to respond in a variety of pleasing ways to pick attack which I did not hear as much on the other clips. Clip 3 sounded good, but slightly scooped, but the eq on clip 1 seemed even and full. Then, when you start the solo, it almost sounds like there is a wah-wah turned on. Very cool... Clip 2 seemed too distorted. Nice phrasing on all clips.

what speakers are in the 2 Rock cab?
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Tonegeek wrote:Well, if we are voting I am for 1,3,2 in that order. On Clip #1 the amp just seems to respond in a variety of pleasing ways to pick attack which I did not hear as much on the other clips. Clip 3 sounded good, but slightly scooped, but the eq on clip 1 seemed even and full. Then, when you start the solo, it almost sounds like there is a wah-wah turned on. Very cool... Clip 2 seemed too distorted. Nice phrasing on all clips.

what speakers are in the 2 Rock cab?
+1 the dumble blew the other two away and im not just saying that because it's a dumble. The two rock sounded pretty good too but i wouldnt even touch the Mesa, yuck :?
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heisthl wrote:
Tag wrote:Here is Dumble #183 doing Politician. No Dumblator, no special cables, just straight in. SM57 stuck dead center into a TwoRock cab. Delay added at board. Sorry for the digital clipping, as I had it to hot. PRS Artist 3 guitar.
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... i&newref=1
... #183 is one great sounding amp and you've yet to post anything else anywhere that sounds better. JMHO
I have to apologize, Tag, for saying this amp [in another clip] was [comparatively] unremarkable. Although my comment stressed personal taste and was about the 'horn' like attack envelope in one of Funk's clips:
https://tubeamparchive.com/files/brother2_542.mp3
- as I find that horn attack envelope harder to achieve than a sustaining Brit type rock sound.

Great playing too.
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Tag wrote:
LPSGME wrote:...about the 'horn' like attack envelope in one of Funk's clips:
https://tubeamparchive.com/files/brother2_542.mp3
- I find that horn attack envelope harder to achieve than a sustaining Brit type rock sound.
For that horn like attack, just use a Dumblator and squash the signal. When I want that sound, thats what I use, but I have found that I prefer the much more open tone you get without the Dumblator. The TwoRock Emerald Pro is the master of that horn like squash. Super slow attack and LOOONG note bloom.
Hey thanks for the advice. I thought a Dumblator might contribute, but wasn't sure. But I also agree that a more open natural sound is a better choice generally. I just wanted to experience the horn thing.

What period is the 183 from?
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So in comparing this:
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... i&newref=1

to the uploaded clip

I am not hearing where the clone lacks in lower mids, or where the shift is in the wrong place. I do however clearly hear the EL34 flavor of the #183 tone, El34's lack that dip in the mids that 6l6's have, and To my ears EL34's tend to have a "Grit" to the Top end vs the Chime of a 6l6. That being said, #183 is WONDERFUL sounding amp and I'd love to see her naughty bits!
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Which amp is this?

Never mind, that is your Bludo right?
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That is a High plate classic.
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Tag wrote: For that horn like attack, just use a Dumblator and squash the signal. When I want that sound, thats what I use, but I have found that I prefer the much more open tone you get without the Dumblator. The TwoRock Emerald Pro is the master of that horn like squash. Super slow attack and LOOONG note bloom.
Interesting.

May be you posted it before and I missed it:

What kind of Dumblelator do you use and what kind of cables to connect it?

Cheers

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Max wrote:
Tag wrote: For that horn like attack, just use a Dumblator and squash the signal. When I want that sound, thats what I use, but I have found that I prefer the much more open tone you get without the Dumblator. The TwoRock Emerald Pro is the master of that horn like squash. Super slow attack and LOOONG note bloom.
Interesting.

May be you posted it before and I missed it:

What kind of Dumblelator do you use and what kind of cables to connect it?

Cheers
Max
There's an interesting clip comparing a Dumbleator and Klienulator (a FET version) on the Ceriatone forum;
http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=1163.0

I think the Klienulator was home made and unmodded. However someone else suggested some mods that they said made it sound much closer. But I didn't find any clips that demoed those mods.

While the Dumbleator sounds better by far, IMHO, the difference might be much lessened with some EQ and extra volume.
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