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Solder Glue

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Is it just me, or is this how-to video scary-as-heck?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_HVgxUAVIU

How many amp OTs must die because of shoddy soldering like that? :roll:
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When it breaks its all good for the economy!

You are never going to get two 16awg connections onto each tag of those cheap knock off jack-sockets anyway.
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I was curious as to why the jack has two XLR connectors. Isn't this for a speaker cab?
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It won't let me see it! I hate youtube..

Solder isn't glue. Glue is glue.. and it works as a solder substitute for at least a little while. :)
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Unless I missed it, the guy in the video doesn't mention glue. Can't see it? You on an iPad?
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Yes. Device not supported and such. Thank you, Apple.
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Don't try to watch it, life is too short.
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It's the longest thing we'll ever do!

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In SMD land, solder is glue.
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JazzGuitarGimp wrote:I was curious as to why the jack has two XLR connectors. Isn't this for a speaker cab?
Long and long ago I had a Vox Super Beatle that had XLR connectors for the speakers.
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I just fixed a Vox Super Reverb with xlr speaker connection.

Video is sad because people responded to how informative it was, bullshit. :)
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I like this comment:

"thanks man i made a misstake as im new to amps and bought an epiphone head and tried to play through it then i found out i need a speaker cab... wtf"
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:lol: yeah that sounds about right.

Had a guy blow up a Brand new Blackstar head the same way, it was so toasted. I grabbed it for a single ended project.
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JazzGuitarGimp wrote:Unless I missed it, the guy in the video doesn't mention glue. Can't see it? You on an iPad?

He was treating solder like glue for those wire connections, none of which were mechanically coupled to the jacks; a couple of which were merely leaning against the connectors and held there by solder ..... like glue. Also note how the iron was used to melt the solder until it flowed onto the wires, rather than heating the connections and applying the solder to there rather than the iron. Terrible technique. A catastrophic breakdown waiting to happen.

Re: the other connectors
I don't think they're XLR, I think they're Speakon connectors.
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NickC wrote:He was treating solder like glue for those wire connections, none of which were mechanically coupled to the jacks; a couple of which were merely leaning against the connectors and held there by solder ..... like glue. Also note how the iron was used to melt the solder until it flowed onto the wires, rather than heating the connections and applying the solder to there rather than the iron. Terrible technique. A catastrophic breakdown waiting to happen.
Can't see the video also but my imagination does pretty well here - holey smokes - this is a tutorial on how NOT to do it. One thing I learned early-on, also I'm sure all the rest of us good to excellent techs, is solder is NOT electrical "glue".

XLR on the back of my Vox AC50 looks a little crusty with age, but the pins still work fine, that's what counts. And that AC50 sounds mighty good.
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