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[gahult]

I went to work on these today for some finish up work on my builds.

You are welcome to modify and use them is/as you wish.

Hope you can use them.

I printed them at 70% size which looks a little small for these old eyes but,
once you get them inside the cab they're not to bad. One could easily go a tad bigger.

Gary

[billyz]

Gary,
Nice Job!

Thanks.

[M Fowler]

Thanks Gary your the man. How are the projects going and the shoulder?

Mark

[gahult]

Mark,

Going to try to finish up the 3 inportant ones and then get started on my amps.

I had put off the graphics for a while so I moved some sockets around and put some better transformers on the labels. I think they will work out OK. I may even pull the label out of "Cindy" and put the Rev. one in as the transformers are are the old square box look.

I am still screwed with the shoulder. Have some pain and no range of motion past raising my arm parallel to the ground out to the side and up about 45 deg. to the front. I checked in on a forum geared at MX motorcycle riders. They is a sawbones (Dr. Mark Sanders) down in Houston TX that does a lot of these repairs with good results. But, these are all young people and in good shape physically so the heal fast. Anyway Dr. Mark said I may need to get an MRI done on the shoulder cause of my age (old ) as there could be rotator cuff damage. Friggin great My PT guy said looks like ligament damage.
I'll bend my cutter's ear and see what he has to say when I go back on the 9th.

Any way........the wife says come and eat.I better cause she do get pissed if I let it get cold after she takes the time to cook.

Bye,

Gary

[M Fowler]

Gary,

I replied to your pm. It sure doesn't hurt to get another opinion, well only when they do the range of motion testing and palpatation pain testing, sorry. That was a bad accident so it is going to take some time, PT/OT and further MRI to see how its healing. You have lots of projects going so I am hoping you can find a solution Gary.

Mark

[RJ Guitars]

Gary,

You provide a great asset with your drawings.

I have a couple observations that are... well maybe not much but more than a curiosity.

The power tranny mounts very close to the side. From the photos I've seen of the originals and for my own preference I tend to want just a little more room to get some air circulation around them.

On the original Rocket that I've seen, I found the choke was little closer to the back panel. I don't know if this was typical or just random.

In the case of the power tranny mounting, My preference matches up with the old Mark Abbott drawings which I think were pretty authentic. For the choke mount, your drawing is closer to Mark Abbott's than mine is. I think the rumor was that he was working from a Two Rock clone and not an original (Take That FWIW).

In the end I doubt much of it matters. With the power tranny moved tight to the side it's easier to fit the "stack o' caps"... I don't know if there is any real heat issue to consider.

The subtle difference in the placement of the choke on the Rocket makes no difference...

thanks again.

rj

[gahult]

RJ,

Here was my thinking on the Rocket template.

I wanted to maintain the socket location for the recto.

The only edge dim. I could see was the 3/4" from the back edge on the OT. So for uniformity I used that for the PT. it does move it 3/8" closer to the end of the chassis but, only .062 closer to the front.

I also wanted to use the same center line on the PT/OT instead of moving the OT towards the center of the chassis having the ends in line.

I'm thinking moving away from the heat of the recto by 3/8" PT and centering the OT (gets that away from the heat too) ain't all bad.
I was more worried about that heat than the air around the outside I guess.
I do have a couple of pics of what must be one of Ken's builds. An Express that looks like the PT/OT are real close to the edge.

The choke I centered on the board instead of using the center line of the center mounting screw on the board. Looks nicer inside.
I moved the choke further under the board as I think the mounting screw would be right under the cap stack otherwise. It could go a bit more under the board if one wanted. Some of the builds I see have a big 4 mounting hole choke. Got no clue on that hole pattern or location or where they came from.

So that was my line of thought. One has to go with what looks right on there minds eye that works for them.

Hey, it's all good.

Thanks,

Gary

[RJ Guitars]

Gary,

Now that you mention it, I remember I moved the Recto tube over either a 1/4" or 3/8" away from the PT from the original Abbott drawing. I had forgotten about that. My thought was also that it seemed like it would concentrate a lot of heat right there and there was not any penalty for moving it. If you are keeping bolt holes on a common line or centers most machine shop will be appreciative.

On the Group build Rockets we had the VOX spec choke which was a 15 Henry choke but was rated at 200mA.... they are a four hole mount and that's probably what you've seen. The ones I had were really nicely made chokes from Dagnall in England.

On my most recent assembly I actually started placed my choke more like you have done for similar reasons and I am using a new choke now. I've had EDCOR start winding my chokes using the Hammond 158L specification and they fit in exactly the same hole pattern. I don't know if you've seen their products - while they are physically similar in size and construction, they don't seem so industrial and have a bit of elegance about them. Their transformers are also very well made and they look like art work... with good sonic results so far.

I've always wondered in Ken Fischer left that little gap between the cabinet and the faceplate to allow a little air flow in his amps. At first I thought it was just a poor fit but now I've grown to think maybe it was on purpose. You've got a lot of heat coming off of the tubes and transformers and it seems like it would work out handy to have a little air gap there.

Thanks again for the drawings... I don't suppose you also have a best guess for "Dirty Little Monster" layout? I understand that he used a standard Wreck chassis and cabinet on those as well.

rj

[gahult]

rJ,

That DLM is most certainly a mystery machine. Doesn't seem to have much info on it. I am totally in the dark on that one. I saw the thread on it but but I would not even dare hazard a guess as to what it is and how it's laid out.

Oh and, Go STATE

Gary

[M Fowler]

I didn't have any layout to go by when I built my Liverpool and Rocket so I set the trannies based on the front valance clearance and side clearance. Punched, drilled and bolted them down. On my Rocket I paid attention to the board for the choke and the tannies was the same as the liverpool. Then later I saw the layout for all this. But I have had no problems with either so I am not sure what difference it all makes. Besides we are all using different transformers than what Ken F used.

Mark

Speaking of trannies rj do you have 18w tranny sets, no choke?