"Speakers for a Dumble" Thread

[pedro]

Guys, thanks

while searching the net for more info on eminence Red Coats I found this quote from Robben's tech Daved.....

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You will also be hearing Eminence Tonkers in the Dumble cab.
Robben is still testing them out, but he has been very favorable towards them so far.
Back home we also have a set of 'Redcoat' speakers not yet being marketed, which Eminence sent us, installed in his other Dumble cab that Robben likes. Their tone is different, but Robben & Alexander both liked them and see them as potentially useful. We will delve into them more when we get back.

Any ideas on which of the Red Coats he has been trying out ?

cheers
Pete

[groovtubin]

http://www.electricamp.com/cabinet-specs.html

played my HRM 80 watter into a 6 X 12 w/Eminence man`O wars, armageddon tone, rich as the day is long... heavy, but built as good if not better than the good ole days of Orange and Matamp..

[Funkalicousgroove]

Beauty is truly in the ears of the beholder!!!

[glasman]

Beauty is truly in the ears of the beholder!!!

My only problem is my ears seem to change daily

[Funkalicousgroove]

I feel the same way, I went and played the swamp thing a little bit ago and it sounds WAY to bright now, and the Weber sounds WAY too dark, the EV still sounds great. In a few hours I'll love them all again I'm sure.

[jaysg]

Any experience with an EV 15-L ? (Just that I have one.)

[groovtubin]

Beauty is truly in the ears of the beholder!!!

Couldn`t agree more with you Funk,

[dobbhill]

EVM15-L: love it in the right box and even an open back combo-roadie requred!!!
D

[glasman]

I have a pair of 15L's that I use in the top's of my PA cabinets. I have used them for Bass and Guitar as well and they sound nice. They are about 20 years old and still going strong. But I agree with Dob, better start buffing up!

Gary

PS> someday I will read what I post ..................

[bjm007]

I've tried the RW&B's but found them to be VERY dark compared to the tone I'm striving for. Does anyone else fell the same????????

I also tried the new Southbay Ampworks (Scumback) G12H30 55hz (in the 65 watt version), and I like the top end better.

I'm going to try the new Celestion Heritage Series G12-65 when it comes out later this summer. After all, that's one of the speakers that was the "old" favorites before the originals became hard to find.

Any thoughts???

[glasman]

I've tried the RW&B's but found them to be VERY dark compared to the tone I'm striving for. Does anyone else fell the same????????

Any thoughts???

As far as the RW&B's I tested one a while back and when I first installed it in the amp it sounded murky. But after several hours it opened up a lot and sounded really nice.

I also installed a RW&B into a 20 watt amp that I had built for a local player. He has been extremely happy with that speaker and his tone is anything but dark. He had tried the Wizard (too much cone cry) and the Tonker (some cone cry) before we settled on the RW&B.

Can't comment on the scumbacks or G12-65's as I have never used them. As far as other Emi's I have tried.

Wizard - This is a pretty nice speaker, if you use them in a 4x12 combination. This distributes the load across all speakers and as such they work really well. In a 1x12 or 2x12 they are almost unusable due to cone cry that appears all over the neck.

Tonker - I currently have one of these in a combo and a 1x12 cabinet. These are note bad speakers but they also exhibit cone cry on the 17th and 21st frets of the high "E" string. It is very subtle, but it is there. As far as tone, at first I really like them, but the more I have played them I hear type of "nasal" quality that I am really starting to dislike.

Not an Emi, but was the speaker of choice from Dr. D, the EV 12L. This is a great speaker for this type of amp (if you like them). There are a tad sterile (they do not color the sound to my ears) but give a great overall sound. This is what will go back into my combo next time I have the amp open.

Other speakers that I am going to test over time are the Tonespotters, Texas Heat and the Celestion Classis Lead 80. I am also still looking for the perfect speaker that doesn't break your back when you lift the amp.

Gary

[bluefireamps]

I have the Emi R,W&B paired with a Wizard in a Top Hat open back 2X12. I use this with my Fuchs SLX. They sound great together with no cone cry I can hear. The R,W&B did need some time to break in. It was a little dark sounding at first.

[jelle]

Hi Gary,

With a Celestion G12 classic lead 80 you´ll definately break your back! It is a heavy speaker with a sort of flat response some what like the EV.

Haven´t tried it with the dumble clone yet, because a friend is using the celestion at the moment. I didn´t care much for this speaker with my plexi, so it´s a good candidate for the dumble style amps.


Jelle Welagen,
The Netherlands

[glasman]

Hi Gary,

With a Celestion G12 classic lead 80 you´ll definately break your back! It is a heavy speaker with a sort of flat response some what like the EV.

Haven´t tried it with the dumble clone yet, because a friend is using the celestion at the moment. I didn´t care much for this speaker with my plexi, so it´s a good candidate for the dumble style amps.


Jelle Welagen,
The Netherlands

I am just looking for alternatives. The CL80 would probably be a decent choice for a 1x12 combo or 1x12 cabinet. Heavy yes, probably not as bad as the EVM.

I also have good information that the CL80 became Dr. D's speaker of choice when new EVM's dried up a few years ago. I can also see why Dr. D always spec'd his amps and cabs unloaded .

Gary

[Smitty]

Try the Red White and Blues with the Cannibus Rex.