Vox (Thomas Organ) tube Berkeley without screen resistors

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seveneves
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Vox (Thomas Organ) tube Berkeley without screen resistors

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Hi there,

Have an early Thomas Organ Vox Berkeley I'm working on.

Have recapped the electrolytics and am using a 150-ohm/3W cathode resistor.

Plate dissipation is coming in around 8.25 (317 plate voltage - 10.3 cathode voltage = 307 x 27 mA) and 10.75 (316 - 10.3 = 306 x 35mA) watts for each tube.

I noticed the amp does not have screen resistors on the EL84s. Both screens just go straight to the 240V power supply node.

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Although this amp is absolutely bone stock, I'm thinking it could be better to install screen resistors.

However, this is a learning experience for me so I'd like to know what y'all think? What is the disadvantage of leaving the amp without scren resistors? Advantage?

Thanks!
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Re: Vox (Thomas Organ) tube Berkeley without screen resistors

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Screen grids are not that hardy in 84s and that’s why they short out and fail way more when pushed to being over driven then a similarly wattage tube like a 6V6.

I would add a resistor that sets the screen voltage at 10 volts less then the plate.

Since it’s really the screens that have the most effect on the idle current you may then need to change the common cathode resistor to idle the tubes back up.
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Re: Vox (Thomas Organ) tube Berkeley without screen resistors

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Idle the tubes back up?
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Re: Vox (Thomas Organ) tube Berkeley without screen resistors

Post by Stevem »

Wait!
I did not even look at the schematic.
There already at a lower voltage potential then the plates so your fine.
When I die, I want to go like my Grandfather did, peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming like the passengers in his car!

Cutting out a man's tongue does not mean he’s a liar, but it does show that you fear the truth he might speak about you!
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