Hi,
I would like to build some SE amp, based on 6112 and 5902 tube. I have found one schematic on the net, it is exactly what I need, but voltages seems a way to high, according to tubes reference data. (for 5902 Max. plate voltage is 165Vdc, 110VDc recommended). Have anyone experiences and advice ? (shematic is attached)
Thanx.
Subminiature 5902 based amp
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Subminiature 5902 based amp
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Re: Subminiature 5902 based amp
It’s that 1.5K ohm cathode resistor as opposed to one of about 300 ohms that keeps the higher voltage its getting from burning up the tube.
The question I have is which taps of that multiple tap 125E transformer is needed to be used?
The question I have is which taps of that multiple tap 125E transformer is needed to be used?
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Re: Subminiature 5902 based amp
Something between 3.5-4 kOhms on primary side will be OK, or I am wrong ?
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Re: Subminiature 5902 based amp
The push-pull 6112 & 5902 based amp I made years ago, I had a B+ of 170V to stay within the published valve limits. Sorry I don't have any experience running them any higher to share.
Re: Subminiature 5902 based amp
Update. I am wrong. According to the Valve Wizard SE Output calculation rule of thumb with Va = 250V, and Pa=3W
Z = Va^2 / Pa
Where:
Va = Anode voltage.
Pa = Maximum anode dissipation
Z = aprox. 20 kOhm
Re: Subminiature 5902 based amp
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Correct both in arithmetic and your initial assumption 250V is too high. Suggest focussing your search on DIYaudio board, as there are a few informative threads there on this. In the past TAG had some people playing with these sub-miniatures, but apparently they've moved on. Based on reports, 5902 appears to be more rugged than the spec sheets indicate but 200V at the top of your output transformer would be a recommended max.
Best .. Ian
Correct both in arithmetic and your initial assumption 250V is too high. Suggest focussing your search on DIYaudio board, as there are a few informative threads there on this. In the past TAG had some people playing with these sub-miniatures, but apparently they've moved on. Based on reports, 5902 appears to be more rugged than the spec sheets indicate but 200V at the top of your output transformer would be a recommended max.
Best .. Ian
Re: Subminiature 5902 based amp
I have decided to give a try to https://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-12V-to-150V ... SwL9pauPNv PSU, for more flexibility in
experimentation with voltages. I am a little bit concerned about EMI noise with using booster PSU... but ZVEX nano is also based on booster PSU, so I guess it will be OK.
Goal is to set working points on output 5902 tube for 5Kohm primary OT, what is actually Hammond 125 ASE. I hope that given calculator is correct.
experimentation with voltages. I am a little bit concerned about EMI noise with using booster PSU... but ZVEX nano is also based on booster PSU, so I guess it will be OK.
Goal is to set working points on output 5902 tube for 5Kohm primary OT, what is actually Hammond 125 ASE. I hope that given calculator is correct.
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Re: Subminiature 5902 based amp
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Interesting PSU. Given the target application one would hope they have designed for minimizing EMI noise.
You might also experiment with 200V "plate" and 800-900 Ohm cathode resistor, with that ASE set up for 10K primary.
Best .. Ian
Interesting PSU. Given the target application one would hope they have designed for minimizing EMI noise.
You might also experiment with 200V "plate" and 800-900 Ohm cathode resistor, with that ASE set up for 10K primary.
Best .. Ian