4x jj kt77 in jcm800-type circuit

General discussion area for tube amps.

Moderators: pompeiisneaks, Colossal

User avatar
martin manning
Posts: 14308
Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:43 am
Location: 39°06' N 84°30' W

Re: 4x jj kt77 in jcm800-type circuit

Post by martin manning »

pdf64 wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:00 pm
Phil_S wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:32 pm...look at the Hammond rectifier sheet...
Any thoughts what is meant by
V (Avg) D.C. = 0.45 x Sec. V A.C.
?
For a sine wave three values are often referenced: peak, rms, and average.
VAC is in Vrms, so max rectified voltage in the limit (no rectifier voltage drop, no ripple) is Vpeak = sqrt 2 x Vrms.
Vavg is 2/pi times Vpeak, so Vavg is Vrms x 1.414 x 2/pi = Vrms x 0.9.
Since Hammond is referencing the entire winding Vrms, the above values are halved, and Vavg = 0.45 * Vrms.
pdf64
Posts: 2932
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:23 pm
Location: Staffordshire, UK
Contact:

Re: 4x jj kt77 in jcm800-type circuit

Post by pdf64 »

martin manning wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:32 pm...For a sine wave three values are often referenced: peak, rms, and average.
VAC is in Vrms, so max rectified voltage in the limit (no rectifier voltage drop, no ripple) is Vpeak = sqrt 2 x Vrms.
Vavg is 2/pi times Vpeak, so Vavg is Vrms x 1.414 x 2/pi = Vrms x 0.9.
Since Hammond is referencing the entire winding Vrms, the above values are halved, and Vavg = 0.45 * Vrms.
I can see that is the case if there wasn't a reservoir cap filling in the gaps between the full wave rectified ripples.
But with a cap I don't get it :(
Unless the cap is so undersized that at full load it may as well not be there.
https://www.justgiving.com/page/5-in-5-for-charlie This is my step son and his family. He is running 5 marathons in 5 days to support the research into STXBP1, the genetic condition my grandson Charlie has. Please consider supporting him!
thetragichero
Posts: 478
Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:46 pm

Re: 4x jj kt77 in jcm800-type circuit

Post by thetragichero »

small update: ended up getting a great deal on a Mercury magnetic "bass" output transformer (very little in the amount of specs listed) with a 5k primary impedance and 4 8 16 secondaries so instead of intentionally mismatching the secondaries (and trying to figure out weird series junction boxes to run my normal cabs) I'm just gonna plop that in
hope everyone is safe out there
PRR wrote: Plotting loadlines is only for the truly desperate, or terminally bored.
Post Reply