Trainwreck Recordings?

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Trainwreck Recordings?

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I did some searching here and didn't come up with much.

Is there a list, or can someone throw out some examples of Trainwrecks on songs that we might all know and love? I mean, besides geetarpicker since I'm sure we all have his CD already. :)

My dad was asking me what my TW amp is supposed to sound like...and I really didn't know who the Music Hall of Fame guys were the used the real thing!
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Yes, I'd like to hear more clips from others that have built TW's. You would think there would be a lot of them.
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kec wrote:Yes, I'd like to hear more clips from others that have built TW's. You would think there would be a lot of them.
Well, that too, but I meant actual recordings on CDs that I might already have.
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This is WAY more information than you asked for, but it might be of interest.

It's kind of sad that not many touring pros got or even heard of Ken's amps back in the day. We are talking low low production, and by the time the word was getting out far and wide Ken was already slowing way down health wise in his ability to build. By the time his amps got a real buzz going they were already being put away as collectibles and the values rising, and I can also guess that not many touring guys were going to want something they had to baby sit on the road because of the darn value of the things.

Heck I had never heard of a Trainwreck until I walked into Angela Instruments one day in 1989 and there sat a Trainwreck Express. The owner used it to cut sub sandwiches on! He said it sounded great "for someone that works their guitar knobs to control it" and I said cool! The shop owner actually offered to let me borrow the amp for a week to check it out, as I guess he figured it was his way to help Ken get the word out. I barely knew the shop/amp owner but took him up on the offer. Anyway I played it a week and HAD to get on the list which I did. Still back then a Trainwreck amp was an odd duck. A homebuilt guitar amp was something you NEVER saw. Heck, a Trainwreck amp was the first handmade amp I had ever even seen other than one Mk1 Boogie. The only other boutique (not even what we called them then) amps that I knew about then were Boogies, Dumbles and Kendricks. It seemed the popular "hip" new rigs were all going to rack preamps and poweramps with tons a bells and whistles, and even Boogies and Dumbles were loaded with "features". Nowdays 3 knobs amps are retro cool, but back then folks actually made fun of my Trainwreck amps...that is until they heard them. :shock:

I had heard that back in the early 90s several studio guys in LA did plenty of session work with Trainwrecks, some even for TV and commercials. Not sure where though...

Just a couple months before Ken's death I did some clips of my Express on DVD that Ken really liked. Ken even paid me for some extra DVD copies of them. Ken apparently also forwarded them on to Mark Knopfler, as Ken was trying to convince Mark to somehow find a Trainwreck as a follow up to the Komets he was already using. Only a few months later Ken was gone...

I know that "BB" from "BB and the Stingers" was a blues/pop guitarist vocalist out of NJ that did some great stuff back in the day. Ken said BB used a couple of Liverpools. However I recently researched it and it appears BB played quite a number of amps and who knows what ended up on what tracks? BB sadly passed away earlier this year and his two Liverpool amps were recently sold, and one of them ended up with Brad Paisley just recently though he apparently has yet to record it. It will be interestng to see what tones Brad gets from it, though he tends to like to play several amps at one time for his tone so maybe a Liverpool and Dr.Z together?...I'm sure it will be good. Back to BB, I did find some info about him on a Myspace page with some clips but I have no idea if any of them were specifically his Liverpools. The clips I found were really great sounding and sure reminded me of a Liverpool but who knows.

Some say there is a particular Bryan Adams cut with an Express, maybe? And also rumored are some George Lynch recordings as for a while George had an Express but I don't think he kept it. Detail there is also vague...

There you have it. Others may have some more leads on this topic. It's one of the reasons I put out my CD this year even though the tracks were recorded several years ago actually (on analog 1" 16 track) but only recently mastered. It was a few years after completing the recordings that I realized the tracks might even be of interest specifically to hear these rare amps played in a band context. I used an orginal '91 Liverpool on one track exclusively and a little for rhythm on other tracks though the rest of the CD is my '89 Express.

That all said, I'm starting to record a second instrumental CD early next year, and yes with the same amp.

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Thank you for that info Glen. I was hoping there were some cut and dried examples...but at this point, I guess we can only hope for future recordings like yours.

Funny you mentioned Bryan Adams...I heard one of his tunes on the radio today, and I'm like..."hey, that kinda sounds like....nah"
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Thanks Glen...

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So I wonder who the Hall of Famers are that used TW that Ken mentioned....
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geetarpicker wrote:That all said, I'm starting to record a second instrumental CD early next year, and yes with the same amp.
WooHoo! That is GREAT news Glen!
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FYI

Spoke with George Lynch's tech yesterday and he stated that the TW he had was borrowed. "Jenny" was its name. It was used on Dokken's second album only. It had to be reurned.
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fusionbear wrote:FYI

Spoke with George Lynch's tech yesterday and he stated that the TW he had was borrowed. "Jenny" was its name. It was used on Dokken's second album only. It had to be reurned.
That would be the Tooth and Nail album.
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Glen, thanks for the great reading...

I wish mr. Knopfler will get his hands on an express, I'd love to hear the combination!
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I love the Lynch tone on Tooth and Nail!! I practiced those licks for many years as a kid and recently busted them out at a rehearsal. My bass player and singer knew it right away.
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dartanion wrote:I love the Lynch tone on Tooth and Nail!! I practiced those licks for many years as a kid and recently busted them out at a rehearsal. My bass player and singer knew it right away.
I listened to Tooth and Nail today and I don't hear a TW. Am I wrong? Maybe he used lots of fx?

I used to like his tone, but as I get older I find it's not my cup-o-tea anymore. I still dig EVH's early, pre Hagar, tone though.
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geetarpicker wrote:This is WAY more information than you asked for, but it might be of interest....

That all said, I'm starting to record a second instrumental CD early next year, and yes with the same amp.

www.myspace.com/glenkuykendall [img:20:20]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-10/ ... Wlight.gif[/img]
Glen - Your info is priceless... those are great tales and I'm delighted to have some TW info with some authenticity to it... I've always wondered who Ken's hall of fame players were... maybe someone else can add a little more???

I love your first album - I use it all the time to demo TW tone... can't wait for a 2nd set of tunes.

By the way - do you ever bump into a guy named Brent Rowan over there in Nashville? I've met him and got to hang out with him a couple times ... great picker!

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who knows what lynch used. he doesn't....

but endorsed randall for the tooth and nail stuff...... tone sounds like randalls mic'ed with some wicked tube preamps.

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