Weber 5F6A build with no output
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Delmar Evans
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Weber 5F6A build with no output
Hello to all. Im new to amp building and new to the forum. Have had great success building several 5E3's Tried my hand at a 5F6A bassman using a Weber layout. So far, no output. Have reviewed all wiring and components on the turret board. All appear good at this point. Have not checked any voltages as of yet, and am looking for some guidance. Any thoughts appreciated.
Regards,
Delmar
Regards,
Delmar
Delmar
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Re: Weber 5F6A build with no output
Measure and record voltages on all tube pins and power supply nodes and post them.
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Delmar Evans
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Re: Weber 5F6A build with no output
Test voltages with the tubes installed and a speaker connected. All the controls should be set midway. When you touch the meter probe to some pins you may hear a click or hum or maybe even a radio station. This generally means that the amp is basically working from that point back to the speaker.
Did you examine the input jacks to make sure that the jacks you used match the ones in the layout?
Did you examine the input jacks to make sure that the jacks you used match the ones in the layout?
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Re: Weber 5F6A build with no output
Tubes in. You don't need to measure the rectifier tube pins if you have good DC voltage on the OT CT.
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Delmar Evans
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Re: Weber 5F6A build with no output
Thanks for the quick responses. I will
Check all voltages and reply tomorrow.
Getting late here. On the output jacks,
I used 4 RCA jacks. I will attach a photo
Have there been problems with these jacks?
Normally I would have not used these,
But I'm building the amp for a friend of
Mine.
Regards
Delmar
Check all voltages and reply tomorrow.
Getting late here. On the output jacks,
I used 4 RCA jacks. I will attach a photo
Have there been problems with these jacks?
Normally I would have not used these,
But I'm building the amp for a friend of
Mine.
Regards
Delmar
Delmar
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Delmar Evans
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Re: Weber 5F6A build with no output
Oops , mis spoke on input jacks. Was
Thinking of speaker RCA jacks. Yes input
Jacks are shorting jacks
Regards
Delmar
Thinking of speaker RCA jacks. Yes input
Jacks are shorting jacks
Regards
Delmar
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Delmar
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Delmar Evans
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5F6A no output
Well I started taking some voltage readings. Seems like what I have so far does not look correct. I attached a spread sheet.. Any thoughts appreciated
Regards,
Delmar
Regards,
Delmar
Delmar
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Delmar Evans
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Re: Weber 5F6A build with no output
Guess my attachment did not go do here
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Delmar
Re: Weber 5F6A build with no output
There's no voltage on V2.
I'd say there's your problem, check wiring.
Looks like you are missing a connection from power node D to R24.
I'd say there's your problem, check wiring.
Looks like you are missing a connection from power node D to R24.
Re: Weber 5F6A build with no output
I agree that problem is at that node, I bet The jumper between the filter cap and the bottom of the 10K is missing.Teleguy61 wrote:There's no voltage on V2.
I'd say there's your problem, check wiring.
Looks like you are missing a connection from power node D to R24.
TM
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Delmar Evans
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Re: Weber 5F6A build with no output
Yep. No jumper from 8 uf cap to
Pin 6 of V 2. I knew that v2 was
An issue but I was looking at it too
Hard! Actually looking but not
Seeing ! Thanks to all. Will discharge
And solder tomorrow. Too tired now.
Here is a pic of my invisible wire !
Pin 6 of V 2. I knew that v2 was
An issue but I was looking at it too
Hard! Actually looking but not
Seeing ! Thanks to all. Will discharge
And solder tomorrow. Too tired now.
Here is a pic of my invisible wire !
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Delmar
Re: Weber 5F6A build with no output
Yep, no B+ feed to V2 would do it.
TM
TM
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Delmar Evans
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Re: Weber 5F6A build with no output
Couldn't wait. Powered up V2. Pin 1
At 174 vdc pin 3 at 1.26 vdc. Pin 6 at 337 vdc
And pin 8 at 177vdc. Much better. However
No output at speaker. What is interesting
Is the output sounds like it is coming out
Of the chassis ! Like it's coming directly
From a tube it output transformer !
Regards
Delmar
At 174 vdc pin 3 at 1.26 vdc. Pin 6 at 337 vdc
And pin 8 at 177vdc. Much better. However
No output at speaker. What is interesting
Is the output sounds like it is coming out
Of the chassis ! Like it's coming directly
From a tube it output transformer !
Regards
Delmar
Delmar
Re: Weber 5F6A build with no output
So the chassis is microphonic? Could be a dodgy input jack tip switch not quite closing. Or could be bad lead dress picking up some stray EMF
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