Diabetes has struck.

[Jerryz1963]

Thank you, Nick, for taking the time to find and post those.

Dr. Fuhrman's fame in diabetic circles (his diet even gets type 1's off insulin) eventually got him noticed by a diabetic journal. They asked him to write an article. He wrote the article, and they gave him a 750 dollar check.

A little time goes by, and Dr. Fuhrman gets a call from a lady at the diabetic journal, very apologetic. "Dr. Fuhrman, in your article, you have patients coming off insulin." "That's right," says Dr. Fuhrman." "Umm, Dr. Fuhrman, can you tone the article down a little, maybe just say the diet is helping some? You see, the majority of our revenue is from DRUG manufacturers." To which Dr. Fuhrman replied, "I'm sorry, I can't do that." And he returned their money. Does diet really work with type 1's? Isn't that like impossible? Tell it to my friend. His son is type 1 and, as long as Robert controls his diet, he doesn't require insulin. He says it's a struggle because he has half a dozen other children who are not diabetic.
My GF is diabetic. Her doctors are crap. Eventually, she has come to understand that I DO know what I'm talking about, but only after their repeated misdiagnosis and mistreatment of her became blatantly obvious. NOW, she listens to me. When we first met, her attitude was like Billy's. Not now. Her health is much better.
I'm going to close out of this with this message to anyone who cares. I have a mountain of research, most of it University Medical Center type research and NONE of it from the Alex Jones show. If you care, PM me and I'll send it to you. I'm not going to get into arguments about it.

[billyz]

By the way Jerry, I did read the research publication you did not link. It says there was an effect that lasted for a week. The Natural healing articles all claimed it was a cure all for everything from Lupus, Crohns, Diabetes and M.S.
I am not saying these and other diseases are not fundamentally caused by similar conditions. I also do find a lot of good thinking in the naturalist approach to health , diet and exercise.
I am sorry I set you off but, it does irritate me that there is so much misinformation and exaggerated claims made to the unsuspecting and often desperate people.
Please continue your medical research.

[gui_tarzan]

I was getting close to being type II a few years ago and after much research on my part I cut out HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) from EVERYTHING I eat or drink. That was hard, it's in most of the processed food and almost all soft drinks except diet drinks. But I did it and dropped my triglycerides by almost a thousand (along with meds) - yes, a thousand - I was just over 1300 and the last time my doc checked I was floating around 300. I lost a bunch of weight at the time too but my lack of exercise and love for food has put it back on. Just no HFCS for me. It's poison.

Despite the corn industry saying otherwise, HFCS IS processed differently in your body (hormone triggers, etc.) and as time goes by we've learned a lot more about it. Notice the pro-HFCS ads on TV? Oh, that's right, they don't run them anymore because what they were saying was untrue.

Anyway, doctors have told me some people can reverse their type II with weight loss, diet changes and exercise. Not all, but some. We have a horrible diet in this country and we're all guilty of eating crap. Anything processed, MO(NSANTO)dified, anything with HFCS (or too much sugar altogether), refined this or that, partially hydrogenated, poly-unsaturated, blah blah blah.

My great-grandparents lived to 102 & 92 and they were heavy smokers. Grandma made all of their meals from scratch though and they were not overweight or diabetic. Grandpa made it six months longer than grandma did until he died at 102 from "old age" and a broken heart. No cancer, no diabetes, no strokes, no heart attack, his body just plain shut down one night.

Sorry for the rant, I just have personal experience in this area. Your mileage may vary.

[billyz]

Corn syrup is poison ! Diabetes is a worldwide problem. The USA is not even the worst country either. We are behind china and India I believe. Even Italians have a near 9-10% rate. No one knows what has caused the global epidemic but, many think pollution is a driving factor. Different ethnic types suffer higher rates . Diet , exercise are important to reduce the risk factors,
Much of our food supply is no longer healthy, pesticides, air pollution, water pollution are all factors. Genetics are a very important risk factor.
I have been able to use far fewer meds thru diet and exercise. I had once hoped to get off the meds entirely but it is probably not going to happen without further medical breakthroughs. The low carb diet has worked best for myself and many others along with the mediterranean diet. Some carbs are good and others not. Even our produce has been genetically altered thru centuries of selective breeding into lower fiber, higher simple carbohydrate produce.
Good health to all.

[JazzGuitarGimp]

Wow, I guess I've been busy with life. This thread was only two pages the last time I looked at it! I really have to say, once again, thanks to everyone for your encouragement! I've lost 35 lbs and I am finally able to be on my feet long enough to get some exercise without severe lower back pain. Today, the mailman brought my workout program: DDP Yoga. Anyone interested in checking it out can find it here: www.ddpyoga.com

Peace,
Lou

[eniam rognab]

great job lou!

ohmmmmmmmmm

[billyz]

Lou, that is great. Yoga is excellent . Mind ,body, and spirit all need to be healthy.

[Colossal]

That's excellent news Lou. Keep up the good work.

[cbass]

Way to go Lou! keep it up and you'll be at your target weight in no time.

[Jerryz1963]

HA HA.
By the way Jerry, I did read the research publication you did not link. It says there was an effect that lasted for a week. The Natural healing articles all claimed it was a cure all for everything from Lupus, Crohns, Diabetes and M.S.
I am not saying these and other diseases are not fundamentally caused by similar conditions. I also do find a lot of good thinking in the naturalist approach to health , diet and exercise.
I am sorry I set you off but, it does irritate me that there is so much misinformation and exaggerated claims made to the unsuspecting and often desperate people.
Please continue your medical research.
See you

I'm not sure what your problem is. THEE source material (the original study) clearly states it lasted for up to six months. not a week. I don't know where you get your "week" from. In animals with extremely short life spans, months long disease-free state is pretty good.
Cancer and diabetes seem to have very little in common, and I am perplexed by the fact that practically every herb, mineral, and/or plant that are proven to help treat diabetics are also proven to help treat cancer.
Again. ridiculous I have to repeat myself, but I don't rely much on lay publications. I do find the original research when possible, research performed by research scientists, medical professionals, etc, I don't go to Alex Jones, and I don't use the National Enquirer. If I find an article on a pub like Natural News, I look for the original research to see what's what. I read the original study on capsaicin and Toronto Children's Hospital years ago. My POINT is still quite valid. There have been no human trials to date. It's been 8 years. IT was anticipated they would begin in 2007. There won't be any. Not until the corruption is dealt with. And as I see the corruption getting worse, not better, I'm not holding my breath.
Of importance for each individual to understand is, the doctors know they are frauds. They won't buck the system and give you the best possible treatment because they will lose their license. Look up Dr. Simoncini and cancer for a great modern example of that.
I was reading research by an orthopedic surgeon who was testing using small electrical currents to induce healing in nonunions. Normally, the healing was only associated with one electrode, I forget if it was the positive or negative electrode. Anyway, he discovered when he used silver, healing was associated with BOTH electrodes. At that point, his funding was yanked. That's the pattern. As soon as a doctor or researcher discovers something he isn't "supposed to find out," funding gets yanked and the coverup starts. THey push vaccines. The best example of why to avoid them was a study I read as a teenager involving I think whooping cough. It was an initial shot and two or three boosters. Then they did a study for efficacy. The subjects who got the full series were about 100% likely to get the disease. Those who didn't get any injections were about 100% likely to NOT get the disease. The rest fell in the middle.
Dozens of university studies have been done testing the efficacy of Traditional Chinese Medicine. Surprisingly, the results were quite uniform. In 14% of cases, a cure was effected. THis included for a disease for which western medicine has NO CURE. fully 86% get a definite improvement, and only about 10% got no measurable or discernible improvement. and TCM as the perhaps the world's oldest system of medicine has treatments for just about everything. Ayurvedic medicine is equally impressive.
Ignorance isn't bliss when it comes to your health, and 95% of what "they" tell is just flat-out wrong.
The reason people don't see the results they want to see from their diets is because they are on the WRONG diets. Anthropologists note a distinct difference between populations who cultivate grains and those who do not. The grain cultivators have all manner of disease, caused by the fact that grains are primarily starch, and the starch becomes glucose. The body's ideal fuel isn't glucose, it's fats. HEALTHY fats. Not the fats "they" push on us. They demonize the healthy fats and stress fat-avoidance. Exactly the wrong thing to do and a significant factor in the rise of cancer and diabetes (and a whole host of of other diseases) ,albeit for partially different reasons.

[JazzGuitarGimp]

Jerry, Could I ask you to please bow-out of this discussion? If you need to be correct in Billyz's eyes, then PLEASE send him a PRIVATE message to set him straight.

Many thanks,
Lou

[cbass]

But his IQ is over 150 who is gonna school us dimwits

BTW I would guess 150 is around average for this group.

[Teleguy61]

Anybody who has to tell me how much smarter than me he is, probably isn't.

[billyz]

Here is an interesting news article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/16/healt ... ted=1&_r=1&

It's complicated.

[LeftyStrat]

Mind ,body, and spirit all need to be healthy.

Wise words my friend.