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Re: weber speakers

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Probably off the track here, but yeah I'd like to see more American products on the shelves. Tired of funding the Chinese military and seeing greedy CEOs plundering the US tax base, with an ineffective president distracted from real issues by his socialist agenda.

True story. I needed a 1/4 turn shutoff valve for a refrigerator ice maker. The old saddle valve restricted the flow. So I bought one at Lowes. Cut the pipes, sweated it in, added the 3/8" to 1/4" coupling, turned the water supply back on - and it leaked. Rechecked everything I did and found the valve itself was at fault. $7.97 - made in Red China. Took it back to get a replacement. They were out. Their inventory indicated they had two left - both returns. No thank you sir!

Stopped by Home Depot on the way home. They had exactly what I needed in bulk, at the same price. Sweated it in, no problems. Overall, a nicer unit actually. Unit was designed, manufactured and assembled in USA. So where is the advantage for the consumer with the Chinese junk?
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RWood wrote:I have serious doubts that they make all (if any) speakers here with the way almost all companies do business these days, and they won't convince me otherwise.
Weber certainly builds a lot of their speakers in Kokomo Indiana.
I've visited their shop and have seen the stacks of frames, cones, spiders and parts all waiting for assembly. When you order a speaker from them, it isn't shipped immediately because they have to custom build it for you. They have so many speaker options available that they don't keep an inventory of finished speakers.
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This is Brian Spane from Weber Speakers. I have worked for TA, Ted and Weber Speakers for almost 10yrs. My primary role at Weber as been building/managing the new speaker builds/production and recones. Everything Jim has said about us is a lie. It's yet another attempt to discredit us and harm our reputation for obvious reasons. He has attempted to smear us on other forums in the past and was told to stop. Now he spreads the lies here. We have never bought/sold any speakers from overseas suppliers. We have never had speakers built overseas. Our signature line is built in a shop in Indianapolis that primarily builds small/light weight speakers. Allowing us to sell them at a lower price. Everything else is hand built in Kokomo, Indiana; in our shop. We have many customers that have visited our shop that can easily verify this. Our doors are always open. All of our speaker parts are in plain sight. We have given many tours.

I was Jim's primary contact at Weber the majority of the time he was our customer. The fail rates he claims is an absolute lie. How could we be in business this long if it were true? It never happened. I have trained and set next to all of our builders. I would have never allowed our quality to suffer like Jim claims. I wasn't raised that way. I've always taken pride in my work. While we built speakers for Jim, he claimed they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. We had customers telling us that Jim claimed we even built his speakers better than our own. Then as soon as split ways, he has done nothing but drag us through the mud to promote his business. I can't sit back and continue to allow this to happen. Ted was in the shop every single day, up until the last few weeks of his life, due to his hospitalization. He literally lived two blocks away from our shop. After I took over speaker builds, I have always been responsible for our builds. The majority of all speaker questions/comments/concerns have always gone through me. Many customers can also verify this. I have helped many customers through the years.

TA, Ted and Connie (Ted's wife/TA's mother) have always treated me like family and I have always treated them the same way. I have always enjoyed what I do. It's a good feeling to know that many musicians use our speakers in their amps. It makes me feel good to have an old, dirty, broken down speaker come in for recone and I know that I was able to bring it back to life; allow customers to continue to enjoy their vintage amplifiers.

When Jim says he "hates to burst your bubble" that he seen me doing the recone of a M75 wrong, is another lie. What a joke. Every single part used on "his" speakers were our parts. I have hand built thousands of speakers. How would I have suddenly reconed a M75 speaker wrong. They were Weber speakers with his sticker on them, nothing more. I have reconed many Jensen, Celestion, JBL, Utah, Oxford, etc... speakers.

Jim flew out to steal our build methods. We were informed by several sources that Jim was trying to obtain our parts. Then he suddenly wanted to come see how we do our builds. That was his first and only visit to us during our entire relationship. I was there the day he visited. He wasn't in our shop very long. We spent more time sitting in the restaurant for lunch than he did in our shop.

I will say nothing else about this subject, on this forum. If anyone has any other doubts or questions, please feel free to email me at brian@webervst.com. I will gladly straighten out any other misinformation.

PS - I want to add that Ted was always the face of Weber, but he didn't have anything to do with builds or production, during my employment. Ted and TA were the only builders during the beginning years, but as the business grew, they were able to hire employees, so Ted could focus on R&D of new products, emails and phone calls. TA has always ran the business and was in charge of speaker builds/quality. After I was hired and got settled in, he trusted me enough to hand over the speaker reins, so he could focus on running the business as it grew.
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I have a bad Celestion Vintage 30 is it really worth it for me to have this reconed?

The speaker cost over $100 new and recone cost plus shipping doesn't add up to me but I have no experience in this department so guidance is appreciated. :) Keep the bad speaker around for mock up purposes instead.

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Thank you Brian.

As I told Ta few days ago Im sure karma will turn on Jim one day.
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I have had several Weber speakers over the years. Currently have a 4x10 loaded with dt10s that I love. I have never bought a scumback speaker and never will.
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Hi Brian. I understand that the speaker are put together in the US (all of them?), but what are the countries of origin for your speaker components? Are those US components as well?

Just wanted a little clarification. Sometimes it's not what someone says, but more so what they don't say. :D

I've bought a few speakers from Weber and I've been pretty happy with them so far for the record.
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echuta13 wrote:Hi Brian. I understand that the speaker are put together in the US (all of them?), but what are the countries of origin for your speaker components? Are those US components as well?

Just wanted a little clarification. Sometimes it's not what someone says, but more so what they don't say. :D

I've bought a few speakers from Weber and I've been pretty happy with them so far for the record.
Really? A Weber employee came on the forum to state categorically that their speakers are made in the US. You can believe him or not, your choice but changing the subject to component origin is BS.

Scumback has spent too much time on too many online forums trashing Weber for it to be a helpful public service announcement. My personal experience with Weber, both with an without Ted onboard has been great - their ceramic Blue Dog is my favorite speaker. I have bought multiple examples over time and they have all been excellent.
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Hello everyone, This is TA Weber (Ted's son) of Weber Speakers. We have been in business for 17 years. During this time, all of our speakers have been and are built in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA... We have NEVER had any speakers built outside of the US. There are/have been certain individuals who love to get on these various boards and try to discredit us, our products. I can assure you, that if we made inferior products, we would not have lasted all of these years. The one individual, in particular, enjoys writing/speaking lies about us, our products, me, my employees, etc. I have to believe this anger is fueled by jealously. We have better things to do, like take care of our customers and build speakers, than to be involved with such petty claims. However, we will continue to defend ourselves from blatant lies. If any of you wish to visit our facility, please feel free. We are located @ 405 E. Southway Blvd, Kokomo IN 46902. Come and build your own speaker, if you want. If any of you have any questions/comments/concerns, please feel free to email me directly taweber@webervst.com or you can call the 2 phone #'s on our website. www.tedweber.com
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I've enjoyed the Weber speakers and attenuators that I've used. If they could tell me which of their pots are 10% and which are 30%, I would rate them a 10. :wink:

As far as businesses coming here to talk crap about their competitors (whether amp businesses or speaker businesses), perhaps we could start a separate forum for that (preferably one that no one ever reads). It never ends well.
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I just ordered a 6" AlNiCo with the smooth cone for one of my Champion 600 rebuilds and I'm looking forward to seeing how drastic of an improvement it turns out to be. It's my first time ordering from Weber. If I really dig it I'll get a second one for the other amp.
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I only have 2 of Weber's speakers, but I like them both.
I asked Ted what I needed to make my 5W SE amp sing, he said a 12A125A well broken in by them. He sure nailed it!
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lord preset wrote:
Really? A Weber employee came on the forum to state categorically that their speakers are made in the US. You can believe him or not, your choice but changing the subject to component origin is BS.
Uh... yeah... He said they were "built" here. Not made here (there is a distinction). So just to clarify.. I happen to have a Nissan truck that was "built" in Tennessee with parts that were "made" in several different countries. So it's just a curious question I have, and yeah it does seem relevant to this thread titled: "Weber Speakers" with the threads author asking "Does anyone know if Weber speakers are made in USA?" :wink:
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So, if even one component isn't manufactured here it isn't an American made product? The copper wire could come from Australian ore.

Very few items could meet that requirement.

For the most part, "Made in USA" means assembled here.

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I don't think we need to worry about where the ore came from. It's just a raw material right?

If the speaker was put together here from imported parts... it was "built" here.

If the speaker was put together in America, with components that were manufactured here from raw materials, it would qualify as being "manufactured and built" here which means "Made in the USA"

Here's the FTC's site on what "Made in the USA" means. I don't think I'm too far off base here. http://www.business.ftc.gov/documents/b ... a-standard

So the question still stands (which is what this thread is about)... Are they made in the USA?
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