Onboard dumbleator - power supply from precision PS ?
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Onboard dumbleator - power supply from precision PS ?
Hi
I'd like to add an onboard d-lator to my latest 50watt 102 build but dont really wan to run any external effects in the loop ( already have a good set up at the front end of the chain ) - I just want to have the extra tube in the path for all of its perceived effects on the tone of the amp.
I have a spare tube socket and heater supplies already sitting there in my chassis - so wondered if its possible to take the HT from the existing supply so long as I use dropping string and additional filtering to isolate the stage from the other preamp stages ?
Anyone done a similar thing ?
cheers
Pete
I'd like to add an onboard d-lator to my latest 50watt 102 build but dont really wan to run any external effects in the loop ( already have a good set up at the front end of the chain ) - I just want to have the extra tube in the path for all of its perceived effects on the tone of the amp.
I have a spare tube socket and heater supplies already sitting there in my chassis - so wondered if its possible to take the HT from the existing supply so long as I use dropping string and additional filtering to isolate the stage from the other preamp stages ?
Anyone done a similar thing ?
cheers
Pete
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Re: Onboard dumbleator - power supply from precision PS ?
Just come off your screen side of your choke with a couple of dropping resistors and 33uf 450 to 500V caps. All of my amps are built lile this and it works great.
You might have to tweak the overall string a little. But I start with 47K and 100K and with a 450V starting point, I get what I need.
Gary
You might have to tweak the overall string a little. But I start with 47K and 100K and with a 450V starting point, I get what I need.
Gary
Located in the St Croix River Valley- Afton, MN
About 5 miles south of I-94
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www.glaswerks.com
About 5 miles south of I-94
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www.glaswerks.com
Re: Onboard dumbleator - power supply from precision PS ?
Thanks Gary
I am good to go - hardwired all the components around the spare socket last night - so will do the PS tonight
cheers
Pete
I am good to go - hardwired all the components around the spare socket last night - so will do the PS tonight
cheers
Pete
Re: Onboard dumbleator - power supply from precision PS ?
Hey Gary, good to see you here. 
Tom
Don't let that smoke out!
Don't let that smoke out!
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I am still around, building amps and working. Taking it to the next step and taking on a few dealers.... and fighting with my cabinet shop lol.Structo wrote:Hey Gary, good to see you here.
Gary
Located in the St Croix River Valley- Afton, MN
About 5 miles south of I-94
aka K0GWA, K0 Glas Werks Amplification
www.glaswerks.com
About 5 miles south of I-94
aka K0GWA, K0 Glas Werks Amplification
www.glaswerks.com
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Forgot to mention, I got remarried on January 1, 2014.
Of course, she lives in Minnesota....
Of course, she lives in Minnesota....
Located in the St Croix River Valley- Afton, MN
About 5 miles south of I-94
aka K0GWA, K0 Glas Werks Amplification
www.glaswerks.com
About 5 miles south of I-94
aka K0GWA, K0 Glas Werks Amplification
www.glaswerks.com
Re: Onboard dumbleator - power supply from precision PS ?
Congratulations Gary
Re: Onboard dumbleator - power supply from precision PS ?
Congrats Gary and come visit me next time your up in Minnesota. 
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Will do, she has a home in Cottage Grove and get up there a few times a year. THink I will wait till it warms up a bit.M Fowler wrote:Congrats Gary and come visit me next time your up in Minnesota.
Gary
Located in the St Croix River Valley- Afton, MN
About 5 miles south of I-94
aka K0GWA, K0 Glas Werks Amplification
www.glaswerks.com
About 5 miles south of I-94
aka K0GWA, K0 Glas Werks Amplification
www.glaswerks.com
Re: Onboard dumbleator - power supply from precision PS ?
Congrats!! Gary..Glad to hear it..Build on!
Tony
Tony
" The psychics on my bench is the same as Dumble'"
Re: Onboard dumbleator - power supply from precision PS ?
Got three sisters living near Cottage Grove. 
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Thanks Tony.talbany wrote:Congrats!! Gary..Glad to hear it..Build on!
Tony
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Thanks!!dcribbs1412 wrote:Congrats Gary
Located in the St Croix River Valley- Afton, MN
About 5 miles south of I-94
aka K0GWA, K0 Glas Werks Amplification
www.glaswerks.com
About 5 miles south of I-94
aka K0GWA, K0 Glas Werks Amplification
www.glaswerks.com
Re: Onboard dumbleator - power supply from precision PS ?
Hi all,
wired up the onboard d-lator - but as this is a donor chassis from an old tube PA amp its pretty big and the cable runs to the send and return are pretty long.
Anyhow, despite working OK there is too much noise added withe d-lator onboard - I think because of some proximity of the D-lator tube to other signal runs and heaters. so I have reverted to original set up and removed it for now.
I will build up the d-lator in its own rack unit and go again.
Back to original spec the noise floor is really really low - so all is good.
Actually I even tried DC heaters to the preamp tubes to see if it helped but surprisingly DC heaters was noisier than back to AC which is smooth as a baby's backside !
cheers all
Pete
wired up the onboard d-lator - but as this is a donor chassis from an old tube PA amp its pretty big and the cable runs to the send and return are pretty long.
Anyhow, despite working OK there is too much noise added withe d-lator onboard - I think because of some proximity of the D-lator tube to other signal runs and heaters. so I have reverted to original set up and removed it for now.
I will build up the d-lator in its own rack unit and go again.
Back to original spec the noise floor is really really low - so all is good.
Actually I even tried DC heaters to the preamp tubes to see if it helped but surprisingly DC heaters was noisier than back to AC which is smooth as a baby's backside !
cheers all
Pete