I cant believe this,GM is now China

[eniam rognab]

as a twenty something californian you guys should just ask me

hash oil is so concentrated that even dispensaries here usually wont sell it..
the tanks that are made for vapor liquid wont work with hash or hash oil

there are special globe tanks that dont have a wick/coil arrangement, but a little cup you load hash into that is then heated, so its a slightly different technology. I havent messed around with the cannabis gear but i do have friends that swear by it

heres my new setup, kanger protank II, 2000mah lithium battery

[cbass]

I just mix hash with weed.I use it for medicinal purposes only

[roberto]

Reminds me of all those lighting directors who gave me the same old yarn about stage "smoke" - Oh it's "water based" - that makes it OK.

I've often had the opportunity to face directly the high levels of big companies, and I've noticed that there are some decisional figures that do not know exactly what they are talking about, but they always have something authoritarian to say. And they are right. People want to be ensured. Doesn't matter if it will work or not. Ensure people, then it will be other people's problem.

USA manufacturers never tested the stuff ?!? Just assumed what the 55-gallon drums are labeled is what it really is ??!!??

this is another problem. How much can cost the sign of a (group of) person who have to accept that product compared to the incomes of a big company? 0,001%? Maybe less. That's a great investment.

[roberto]

I would like to know what chemical processes have propylene glycol and glycerine as subproducts. Well, glycerine is the subproduct of biodiesel, I know.

[Reeltarded]

We could cool a Spitfire with that stuff. Don't get it on your polymethyl methacrylate!!

[drew]

I thought GM was going to kill the division till it somehow went fad in China. Can you presently buy a Buick in the USA? Are there still Buick dealers? If so can you get the red silk and black lacquer interior option?

Buick is still alive. The cars they're making now are supposed to be pretty good, but I don't know if they're selling many. I don't see them on the roads much here in California, where people seem to opt either for domestic trucks and SUVs or imported cars, but not so much for domestic cars.

Oldsmobile and Pontiac were killed off.

[Zippy]

How much is the subsidy to the tobacco industry? Why does it still exist? We don't want people to get sick from the stuff yet the US gov't still underwrites the industry - and NOW we have a new, improved, "safe" nicotine delivery system, e-cigs. It doesn't get any better...

Yee haw.

E-cig update:

Electronic cigarettes, also known as e-cigarettes, are battery-operated products designed to deliver nicotine, flavor and other chemicals to help with smoking cessation. Called “vaping,” they turn nicotine and other chemicals into a vapor that is inhaled by the user. The vapors typically contain a mixture of propylene glycol and other chemicals. Propylene glycol is also used as a solvent in inhalers and nebulizers for the clinical practice.

Per the FDA, as the safety and efficacy of e-cigarettes have not been fully studied, consumers of e-cigarette products currently have no way of knowing whether e-cigarettes are safe for their intended use, or how much nicotine or other potentially harmful chemicals are being inhaled during use. Benefits associated with using these products are being investigated. With the data available now, the Mayo Clinic does not recommend the use of e-cigarettes.


The World Health Organization (WHO) states that the potential risks remain undetermined. The manufacturers report that the cartridges typically contain between 6 and 24 mg of nicotine, but sometimes can contain more than 100 mg. A publication released by the German Cancer Research Center in conjunction with the WHO summarized electronic cigarette information based on current data by the following:
Product characteristics
 Consumers do not have reliable information on product quality.
 E-cigarettes have various technical flaws (leaking cartridges, accidental intake of nicotine when replacing cartridges, possibility of unintended overdose).
 Some manufacturers provide insufficient and partly wrong information about their liquids.

Health effects
 Because e-cigarettes are not currently FDA approved or regulated, E-cigarettes may not be rated as safe at the present time.
 The aerosol of some liquids may contain harmful substances (formaldehyde, acetaldehyde, acrolein, diethylene glycol, nickel, chromium, lead), albeit in small quantities.
 The functionality of e-cigarettes can also vary considerably (aerosol production, nicotine delivery into aerosols).

Indoor Air Pollution
Adverse health effects for third parties exposed cannot be ruled out as the use of e-cigarettes may lead to emission of unknown fine and ultrafine inhalable liquid particles. Substances emitted into indoor air may be inhaled in small amounts by non-users present in the same room when e-cigarettes are used. Adverse health effects for third parties due to second-hand exposure cannot be excluded. Studies are currently ongoing for possible adverse health effects for second-hand exposure although there is no definitive information at this time.

Heidelberg (2013). Red Series Tobacco Prevention and Tobacco Control (Vol. 19) Electronic Cigarettes — An overview
Potschke-Langer, M. (2013). World Health Organization Collaboarating Centre for Taobacco Control
Schripp, D. (2013). Indoor Air (Vol. 23, pp. 25-31)