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Some(most) power conditioners kill dynamics.

Easy enough to try without yours.

The kind I like are transformer based, and give balanced power.

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Huh, I never heard, or thought, about power conditioners hurting dynamics...since I switched to just the guitar/cable/amp rig, I have had one of those Furman 1215 Voltage Regulator/Power Conditioners on my "to get" lists for a while. Most of the clubs in my area have horribly variable & noisy power...and it is very noticeable....more research is in order.

Cantplay, which brands/models do you like?
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Oh, like a tripp lite? :D
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:lol:
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Turbojunkie wrote: ........... I have had one of those Furman 1215 Voltage Regulator/Power Conditioners on my "to get" lists for a while. Most of the clubs in my area have horribly variable & noisy power...and it is very noticeable....more research is in order ................

I have the predecessor model Furman regulator to the 1215. Expensive and worth every penny! Highly recommended.
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You can get a Tripp Lite regulated supply for much less than the Furman, but it doesn't look as cool.

[img:500:500]http://www.tripplite.com/shared/product ... RONT-L.jpg[/img]

http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/mo ... delID=2832

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Thanks Structo!
Never heard of that brand...gotta check it out! Cheap money for a regulator, a lot of conditioner-only stuff for that $

And I thought Reeltarded was being his usual funny wiseguy :lol:

Nope, just my ignorant interpretation....uhhh :oops:
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http://www.richardgrayspowercompany.com/

Their 400 is essentially a 30lb choke across the power line. I guess that makes it a crossover, -6dB.

I also have a ps audio P1000

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Thanks John!
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No thanks. I'll keep drinking that bottled power from France. Fizzy!
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As to the Tripp lite stuff, I would warn that it is intended for industrial use, not audio. Yes, it will cover you in the event of brownouts, but the quality of resultant AC also delivers some noise artifacts.

In a club, no problem who cares. In the studio, not good for the quiet stuff.
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Good to know.
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Cantplay wrote:http://www.richardgrayspowercompany.com/

Their 400 is essentially a 30lb choke across the power line. I guess that makes it a crossover, -6dB.

I also have a ps audio P1000

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I have a hard time believing that article. The whole thing about wood fiber from short trees is hogwash.

There's a tone quest interview with Steve Kimock where he talks about possible celestion blue prototypes that boogie had that didn't sound the same as when the blues came out and improved a lot when he had them re-coned, so much so that he bought brand new ones and had them re-coned. I don't think KF was the only one that got sent those prototypes.
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"I have a hard time believing that article. The whole thing about wood fiber from short trees is hogwash"

That's what I thought when I read that. After all, are the individual fibers fifty feet long?

A lot of the stuff KF says seems to be some sort of placebo effect, and plenty of people seem to believe it, and swear by it. Like differences in the sound of different types of wire, for example.

But KF is almost a religious figure among many amp fans, so I generally keep quiet.

Sorry if I offended anyone :shock:
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