Tremolo speed range?

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Prefered Tremolo speed range?

Poll ended at Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:42 am

wide about 1 to 10
9
41%
not so wide 1 to 7
11
50%
narrow 2 to 6
1
5%
I hate tremolo at any speed
1
5%
 
Total votes: 22

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Re: Tremolo speed range?

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dorrisant wrote:To be able to flip a switch located next to the trem controls to change the speed range... Now that would be interesting! Seems there is never enough range, one way or another.
Tony
Ok, can do.
renshen1957 wrote: Hi,
Triangle and sawtooth waves variety also effect tremolo which switches a caps in and out in the preamp.
Best regards,
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Continuously variable wave shape symmetry:
falling slope sawtooth-->triangle-->rising slope sawtooth and sine-like shapes too. How about that?
But didn't I say I don't want to encroach on synthesiser stuff. It was fun in the 1970s, not any more.
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Re: Tremolo speed range?

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renshen1957 wrote:
Firestorm wrote:Any thoughts on wave shape? With the optical ones, you're at the mercy of the reaction/recovery characteristics of the LDR, but in the bias vary versions wave shape should clear effects.
Hi,

Triangle and sawtooth waves variety also effect tremolo which switches a caps in and out in the preamp.

Best regards,

Steve
Yes. Opinions on sound? You could conceivably get the LFO shape to be a smooth sine, but I doubt it's worth it. You can also set the network so the bias swings almost exclusively negative to zero or negative to positive. But what does it all sound like? Let's write a book.
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Firestorm wrote:
renshen1957 wrote:
Firestorm wrote:Any thoughts on wave shape? With the optical ones, you're at the mercy of the reaction/recovery characteristics of the LDR, but in the bias vary versions wave shape should clear effects.
Hi,

Triangle and sawtooth waves variety also effect tremolo which switches a caps in and out in the preamp.

Best regards,

Steve
Yes. Opinions on sound? You could conceivably get the LFO shape to be a smooth sine, but I doubt it's worth it. You can also set the network so the bias swings almost exclusively negative to zero or negative to positive. But what does it all sound like? Let's write a book.
Hi,

I attended my last year of High School and my first year of college concurrently. Instead of being practical (computers) I took nothing but music classes, including Electronic Musical Synthesis. The sound lab contained a Mini Moog and the largest (at that time) Moog IIIP (p for portable) synths. I experiment with LFO with a variety of wave forms, but that was multiple decades ago. It was far easier to use an envelope generator for the backward tape sound, but different wave forms to control variable low and high pass filters was quite interesting.

Guitar players by and large are rather conservative. They attempt to reproduce tones that their favorite artists produce. This make sense if your gig is a cover band or tribute band. It also makes sense if a particular genre (Country, Blues, Classic rock, Rockabilly, Jazz) is your main interest. However, quick and simple access to known and accepted tones or effects (tremolos) is more common place goal which many amps provide. There is less interest in a more flexible amp that has to be learned, and this would apply to Tremolos with non-standard wave forms.

I would love to do a book with videos or audio to demonstrate the differences, but current time commitment by my work precludes such an undertaking, which would be a lot of fun.

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Re: Tremolo speed range?

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I love having lots of switching options on several of my amps... Not for everyone, I understand.

Reason is, I like a lot of tonal diversity, or in this case tremolo diversity. Other players enjoy the extra switch features on my amps, even if they need help to get ther favorite settings, they usually try to remember what they like... They will even snap pics. I don't mind learning how to set up something new and learning all the details.

Besides, when people are shopping amp features, extra switches, etc., are gonna provide a sweet spot that does what they want. You can take note of the settings and replicate them into a simpler, "dialed in" setup in their new equipment.

Same thing applies to pedals, I usually have at least two extra mod switches for different clipping diodes or symetric/asymetric clipping, maybe different gain settings... Many who buy pedals demo the ones I have and ask for the exact same mods.

Besides, you never know when you will discover something new and really dig it. I would love to do a ridiculous tremolo in my next build!! Bring it!

Tony
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dorrisant wrote:I would love to do a ridiculous tremolo in my next build!! Bring it! Tony
For one customer I put the Fender 5-triode swoosh trem into a Deluxe Reverb, also kept the blinky light version, and ability to switch (I don't think remote) just a toggle. Slowed it down overall and it was the cat's pajamas! Lotta punchin' & drillin' though...

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It seems you can slow the trems down on Ampeg Geminis a bit more than Fenders. Than they have the exact opposite on the other end of the sweep which is a staccato effect.

Slightly off topic but I just finished this one about an hour ago. Dumblers will recognize the cathode follower from the Dumbleator. The rest is a 2.5 tube Fender. Can post pics if asked, sh
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Re: Tremolo speed range?

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Leo_Gnardo wrote:
dorrisant wrote:I would love to do a ridiculous tremolo in my next build!! Bring it! Tony
For one customer I put the Fender 5-triode swoosh trem into a Deluxe Reverb, also kept the blinky light version, and ability to switch (I don't think remote) just a toggle. Slowed it down overall and it was the cat's pajamas! Lotta punchin' & drillin' though...

Good luck on your next wobbulator!
That is excellent and more than I would even think about attempting. Lazy, I guess.
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I like it between we can say 0.6÷0.7 and 3÷4 Hz.
The slow part is useful for slow tearful ballads, while the fastest range is more rock oriented.

Do you know if nowadays there's something similar to this IC?
http://www.intersil.com/content/dam/Int ... fn2864.pdf
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Dorrisant touched on something that I think would make the tremolo much more versatile.
A range switch, so you could have two or more ranges of speed.
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Re: Tremolo speed range?

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Assuming my opinion matters...and assuming the sweep of the speed pot is the same for all choices...I voted for 1 to 7.
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