How accurate do you think a $150 .22 Would be@250 yds?

[NickC]

Trickle down does work. If you have excess cash and I provide a service you need it works. If you have no excess and pay for my healthcare you aren't going to need my service and I won't have to feel pride in anything but the ability to find programs you can pay for.

They are mking wealth and electing each other with it.

Fascist Oligarchy

Yep.

[Leo_Gnardo]

http://oig.ssa.gov/newsroom/congression ... ny/april25

Read that one TM and I'll have to say it was enlightening. Thank you!

It's still chilling that Soc Sec now have their own shoot-em-up police force with an annual "budget' of 1.2 million rounds of .357. And as the link indicates, all authorized by law. Not a law that I think is very smart, but there it is. I would think the "smart" thing would be to put genuine US Marshalls on the case in cooperation with Soc Sec when needed. Like it used to be.

Any way I look at it, Social Security should stick to their knitting and if there's a potential for violence associated with criminal activity, we already have lots and lots and lots of branches of police who would be more appropriate to put to work in those situations. Creating new police (therefore armed) forces at every drop of a hat isn't the answer. But we're stuck with it for now.

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So where did all the ammo go? Bought up? Hoarded? Not being released? What do you think? Not being a wise guy, just askin'. I defer to your expertise.

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Still waiting on your ID for that hardware you posted a photo the other day. It IS an impressive shooter.

[briane]

And it has driven the price of ammo up so much it's ridiculous.

damn stuffs so expensive I cant go to the range any more - I'm saving what I have left for the criminals or the 'guaranteed in my life' apocylipse.

I'll just shoot the theif 5 times since I wont be able to shoot straight anymore without practice.

[CHIP]

I'd like to know where the ammo is going. Something is screwed up.
I've tried a couple times to get some 40cal. cartridges at a local sporting goods chain and they say each week they get something, but never know exactly what's coming in.

[ToneMerc]

http://oig.ssa.gov/newsroom/congression ... ny/april25

Read that one TM and I'll have to say it was enlightening. Thank you!

It's still chilling that Soc Sec now have their own shoot-em-up police force with an annual "budget' of 1.2 million rounds of .357. And as the link indicates, all authorized by law. Not a law that I think is very smart, but there it is. I would think the "smart" thing would be to put genuine US Marshalls on the case in cooperation with Soc Sec when needed. Like it used to be.

Any way I look at it, Social Security should stick to their knitting and if there's a potential for violence associated with criminal activity, we already have lots and lots and lots of branches of police who would be more appropriate to put to work in those situations. Creating new police (therefore armed) forces at every drop of a hat isn't the answer. But we're stuck with it for now.

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So where did all the ammo go? Bought up? Hoarded? Not being released? What do you think? Not being a wise guy, just askin'. I defer to your expertise.

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Still waiting on your ID for that hardware you posted a photo the other day. It IS an impressive shooter.

Leo, it's not 1.2M annually, for the SSA it's been a total of 1.2M rounds since fiscal year 2005'. Annually it averages about 153,000 rounds which is around 525 rounds per IA, per year. I know folks that blow through this budget in a week.

I'm curious, who are these "lot's and lot's of branches" of LE that would be more appropriate to investigate local SSA federal criminal codes? Would you rather the SSA or any agents be armed with only flashlights?

As far as ammo, historically at any given moment of any year there are dozens to several hundred of RFP's out for ammo spread across fed, state and local governments. Everybody competes for the same production cycles, of course including commercial sales for the general public.

In reality it's the panic public buying the has the local shelves empty. Just because your local Walmart doesn't have ammo, doesn't mean that ammo isn't available. MidwayUsa has plenty of ammo in stock.

The red dawn mentality, zombie ammo hoarders; some of them will be the first to go, several thousand rounds of ammo and no freakin clue on how to survive beyond 10 days without infrastructure.

That short stick is no groundhog gun. Just a close quarters setup conducive to confined spaces or rolling out of a vehicle rather quickly.

TM

[ToneMerc]

I've tried a couple times to get some 40cal. cartridges at a local sporting goods chain and they say each week they get something, but never know exactly what's coming in.

There's a pecking order, preferred buyers are at the top of the list and the rest, get to compete for over whats left over.

TM

[Structo]

Capitalism rules.

I have never worked for a poor man.

[Leo_Gnardo]

Leo, it's not 1.2M annually, for the SSA it's been a total of 1.2M rounds since fiscal year 2005'.

Still a shocking number for those who don't even know SSA has their own LE branch. No worries, you're lifting the fog of ignorance for me, & doubtlessly for others.

I'm curious, who are these "lot's and lot's of branches" of LE that would be more appropriate to investigate local SSA federal criminal codes? Would you rather the SSA or any agents be armed with only flashlights?

Just flashlights? Not at all. Read on.

My POV as a mere civilian, that gov't agencies might be able to get cooperation from each other when called for. Why social security of ALL outfits needs their own little army. When I think Social Security I'm thinking of clients: grey haired grannies & grampas, disabled folks, like that. Not exactly the types that one needs a firearm or an arsenal to approach. Sure would be enlightening to find out what some of those investigations and apprehensions had to do with.* IMHO those should be the realm of FBI, Marshalls, like that. Got State Police, Sheriffs, local cop shops**, and if necessary National Guard. I'm sure any of them could be called into the fray if necessary. The Soc Sec army looks to me like a classic case of redundancy.

* Would you be kind enough to point me to a couple of examples? Thanx in advance. (edit - added later) I have had a peek at the SSA's investigations page and so far see a couple of minor nut cases but nothing that needs an "armed response." The more hair-raising, the better. Anyone else know of any? I'm in the mood for a chilling story.

** Local town police send a platoon of @ 30 to parades, marching with AR15 or M16 on each of their shoulders. WTF does a town of maybe 20,000 need with that kind of firepower, and likely more that they don't show off.

The red dawn mentality, zombie ammo hoarders; some of them will be the first to go, several thousand rounds of ammo and no freakin clue on how to survive beyond 10 days without infrastructure.

Plenty of that going around. Right next door my bible-thumpin' neighbors just bought a new pickup truck last week. Immediately decorated the back window with NOBAMA sticker, several other "classics", and one that recommends "buy ammo." How very Christian. Love thy neighbor! And be prepared to ventilate 'em. Not exactly comforting. They were very well prepared for the Y2K (non) event too. Still have blue plastic water barrels. Ready for Y3K I guess. We get along, at least for now. Thank hevvins for that. (I'm not aware that they have any weapons more powerful than a CO2 pistol but who knows. Also seem to have invested zero in arms training. Again, but who knows. Just another retirement age Mr & Mrs.)

That short stick is no groundhog gun. Just a close quarters setup conducive to confined spaces or rolling out of a vehicle rather quickly.

TM

Inquiring minds want to know. What it is. It IS impressive. A custom build?

Earlier today I "went along" with the canard, just to see where it would go, and it's turned into an education. Not just for me I'm sure. Thanks again TM and I do appreciate your insight!