This one might be the first music aliens hear from humans.

[Reeltarded]

Let's microwave it then.

[cbass]

with cream cheese?

[cbass]

Well if a dipshit like me can burn water.All be it very ineficiently Seems like some one with a high school diploma could find a better way.

Are thumbtacks 2/3 hydrogen?

Roadkill would have lots of H and Methane that'll burn

[Leo_Gnardo]

If we can figure out how to control A fusion reaction.The universes most abundant resource will be at our disposal.
Of course there is a lot of rich powerful people that are making sure that doesn't happen.

My college girlfriend's been working on fusion since 1978 @ MIT. Guess I wasn't enough for her...

It's a very elusive goal. I'd be more inclined to think the major energy corporations will want to make the most of it. If their production costs drop, and they bill us the same, mo mo profits.

There's been some "urban legends" going on for ages about technology suppression. Some may have basis in fact, others just made up to sell copies of the National Exaggerator & other such dicey publications. Did you know a fellow invented a pill you can drop in your gas tank, fill the rest with water, and drive your car on that? Esso put the kibosh on it back in the 50's. BS like that. Urban legends are fascinating.

And if you want more similar stories with religion technology astronomy all mixed in just talk my next door neighbor - she's got 'em all and they come from the Pastor so they must be true. Today she was going on about Velikovsky explaining that Mars was in such a close orbit with Earth between 900 and 300 BC it caused 200 foot tidal waves and even 80 foot waves in the dry land due to gravity. Oh and of course there was nothing before Creation about 6000 years ago. Dinosaur bones are implanted in rock to test our faith. Like that...

Excellent post cbass!

[cbass]

AFAIK The richest people on Earth control Energy.Trust me they donot want a cheap/free realiable way to produce energy.Thats not Paranoia thats human nature.

[cbass]

If we can figure out how to control A fusion reaction.The universes most abundant resource will be at our disposal.
Of course there is a lot of rich powerful people that are making sure that doesn't happen.

My college girlfriend's been working on fusion since 1978 @ MIT. Guess I wasn't enough for her...

It's a very elusive goal. I'd be more inclined to think the major energy corporations will want to make the most of it. If their production costs drop, and they bill us the same, mo mo profits.

There's been some "urban legends" going on for ages about technology suppression. Some may have basis in fact, others just made up to sell copies of the National Exaggerator & other such dicey publications. Did you know a fellow invented a pill you can drop in your gas tank, fill the rest with water, and drive your car on that? Esso put the kibosh on it back in the 50's. BS like that. Urban legends are fascinating.

And if you want more similar stories with religion technology astronomy all mixed in just talk my next door neighbor - she's got 'em all and they come from the Pastor so they must be true. Today she was going on about Velikovsky explaining that Mars was in such a close orbit with Earth between 900 and 300 BC it caused 200 foot tidal waves and even 80 foot waves in the dry land due to gravity. Oh and of course there was nothing before Creation about 6000 years ago. Dinosaur bones are implanted in rock to test our faith. Like that...

Excellent post cbass!

My buddy has fish rocks and turtles rocks.You have to wet them in a solution with water and acid and hold them up to a light just right.

But they are definately ocean fishes that swam in Missouri

[Reeltarded]

After this, therfore because of this. Post hoc, Ergo propter hoc. What is correlative and what is causal. Take it apart to the pieces and analyze the slurry. Most of our society is built on bullshit people think. Turns out very few people think.

My life's goal is to disover something amazing right in front of us that we never noticed because we all thought something else.

The Hendrix Principle.

I have no education outside of the arts, but science is my real bitch. I am going to own it as much as I can afford.

[Leo_Gnardo]

My buddy has fish rocks and turtles rocks.You have to wet them in a solution with water and acid and hold them up to a light just right.

But they are definately ocean fishes that swam in Missouri

Hm I bet if I had some acid I could see turtles in the rocks too. And a lot more. They'd be doing the turtle tango! Go ahead - test my faith! Silly turkles!

[skyboltone]

I wanna build the ideal 6AQ5 push pull guitar amp and drive a 8" Champ speaker. I got a JBL E110. Too loud prolly. Run the thing on about 200VDC or something.

When the bastards get gravity integrated with quantum physics I'll pay attention again. Screw Shrodinger AND his cat. And none of this balony about shit being in two places at the same time either. The probabilistic smear my ass.

[Reeltarded]

hahaha ok Schrodinger's is a thought experiment in a time where that would be a good description or as good as anyone might understand how crazy the the quanta. The cat is actually very mild. The harsh shit starts when you are measuring at the actual scale of granularity that everything is made of.

It doesn't sit so well with me or anyone else, too, either. (depending on how and when you 'look at it') rofl

Care more about Heisenberg's description of a subatomic particle and use that as a proxy for the cat. If we know where it is we cannot predict it's momentum and if we know it's state of momentum we can't know exactly where it is at a specific time or it's energy state.

It's sort of like knowing the exact cathode current for a planck unit, the time it takes light to travel 1.616 × 10-35 meters.

Take that shit, Fluke!!

We haven't, don't, and won't exist as a rule long enough to know all the possible states of the Universe as a system. I have a feeling, as you do, that dark energy is a crock of shit, as do many well studied scientists who speculate about such things on the weekends then on Monday they go back trying to discover what it is, because that is what they do.

Look on the ground. We have never discovered a single thing fallen from the sky that pre-dates our own solar system. That says about 20 amazing things I can think of and tells a story about where we came from and where we are going.

Don't be afraid of dark matter either. It's a terrible name given to simple particles that reflect no light. They gave it a value to account for everything unknown. Shotgun theory. Boom and you have a public speaking engagement in a high school. Confusing. Daft bullshittery. Explain things with reality and stop making spirits out of bedsheets.

[NickC]

Matter and energy are the same thing, in different states ...... sort of like how water can be a gas, a solid, and a liquid by changing states.

Thought, the mind, life force, will, and sentience all exist in the physical universe but are not understood in quantifiable physical terms. Perhaps they account for the missing stuff scientists make up other names (dark energy, dark matter) for?




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[Reeltarded]

Everything that exists is essentially nothing. A single atom could be expressed by 2 characters of text drawn on a blank 100' square. Isn't that a mess? A nucleus and a cloud that resists collapse because the electrons cannot exist in the same energy state in a given moment. Ten specks of dust in a swimming pool.

It still hurts when you get beat with a stick, but that stick is hardly a thing at all, and what of you? We are made of nothing. The illusion is complete with the barest veil one could not even imagine. Everything we'll ever know.

Freaky. It's a comfort to me.

[NickC]

Everything that exists is essentially nothing. A single atom could be expressed by 2 characters of text drawn on a blank 100' square. Isn't that a mess? A nucleus and a cloud that resists collapse because the electrons cannot exist in the same energy state in a given moment. Ten specks of dust in a swimming pool.

It still hurts when you get beat with a stick, but that stick is hardly a thing at all, and what of you? We are made of nothing. The illusion is complete with the barest veil one could not even imagine. Everything we'll ever know.

Freaky. It's a comfort to me.

Joni Mitchell says we are Stardust. C.S. Lewis says the universe is held together by Love. The Germanic Heroic Ideal asserts we lose the final battle against chaos, but the only thing that matters is the Honor of being in that fight. I suspect all of that is true.

[Leo_Gnardo]

Oh my, this is getting much too deep...

So for fun let's turn the tables on the title - what will be the first music humans hear from aliens? Gas Music from Jupiter? Sun Ra? Flying Saucer Rock n Roll? Interstellar Overdrive? Country Rap from Tralfamadore? Or just advice to surrender now - you have no choice.

Then again aliens (should any bother to have a look over here) might consider humans and all their 'accomplishments' to be no more significant than a couple of flecks on an apple's skin.

We think we're SUCH a big deal. Live it up while you can!

[Structo]

Yeah, we won't be going to other galaxies with conventional propulsion.

It will involve worm holes or other avenues that bypass conventional time.

Sure we can make it to Mars but remember when we went to the moon?

(No, really we did)

It took the boys just over three days to get to the moon, 250,000 miles.

It takes about six months to get to Mars.

The big problem is fuel, you have to bring with.

So I imagine it will take years to get to other systems.

So we need to find shortcuts through time/ distance.

I wonder how the little grey men do it?