D'lator and WDW

[JazzGuitarGimp]

Hi Everyone,

Just a few quick questions, please.

Am I correct in assuming that the D'lator is meant to be be used in the passive efx loop of an amp, as opposed to between the guitar and the amps' input?

When assembling a WDW rig, do most players just use a SS stereo power amp for the two wt channels, or is it more common to go with tube power amps for this?

Many thanks,
Lou

[Homebelly]

i can tell you how i used to do it.
i ran a marshall sl into a palmer PG04 and into a 4X12, this was my dry signal.
The line level of the palmer went into a stereo FX unit, in my case it was a Rocktron inteliflex, this then came out into a SS poweramp and ran 2 2X12's.
This was my wet signal. I used the inteli's internal mixer and a rocktron midi mate with an ernie ball pedal as a CV controller, but some go with an entirely wet signal and run a hardware mixer to blend.

Lots of fun, but it got to be over kill for me and i sold the whole rig in pieces and moved to pedals and a smaller jtm45.

[Structo]

check out this youtube.

Larry Carlton's rig.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmzucDK9Pfo

[martin manning]

Am I correct in assuming that the D'lator is meant to be be used in the passive efx loop of an amp, as opposed to between the guitar and the amps' input?

Yes the D'lator input is typically fed from the preamp output. You can plug a guitar into the D'lator and use it for a buffer and/or booster though... I was doing that the other day, but it isn't a transparrent boost and there are better alternatives.

[JazzGuitarGimp]

Thanks for replies, guys. Carlton's rig is cool - though I wish the video had been done under brighter lighting. But the settings on the Dumble are clear.

Homebelly, I used to run a stereo rig back in the day (about 25 years ago), when my back was stronger! I had an 18-space flight rack that was stuffed with..... well...... stuff, and two fender tone masters on top of the rack, and two mesa small-theil EVM12L-loaded single 12 cabs. It was a great sounding rig but man, what a bunch of stuff to lug around! - though not as bad as a B3

I've just learned about the WDW thing here on this forum in the last few months. One thing that stands out in my mind, and watching the Carlton video confirms this for me, is that there are going to be certain efx that won't work well if the center channel is always dry, and always on; tremolo is the glaring example. So I suspect there will be some efx that would be routed into the center channel, and the two wet channels would be used primarily for ambiance efx like reverb and delay, though, stereo trem or pan would be nice in the two wet channels if the center channel could be muted - kind of like a rhodes suitcase model.

[Bob-I]

At the NJ amp show a few years ago Andy Fuchs had a very cool WDW rig. If it remember right, he took the loop out into a stereo reverb, reverb outs into a small power amp, like 20 watts/ side and into a pair of 12s. The sound was huge.

My only problem with it is I'm looking to reduce the stuff I carry around

[LeftyStrat]

If you're looking for something compact, the GT Spacestation MK II is nice.

These are no longer being produced, but I see them from time to time on eBay.

It's a single cabinet with two speakers at 90 degrees to each other, and they modify the phase of the left and right channels to produce a stereo image (Similar to the technique of mid-side mic recording).

Here's a thread on the unit:

http://www.thestompbox.net/forum/showth ... ation-MKII