NSD - New shop day!!

[xtian]

I've lived in this house 14 years, but only now cleared out the old redwood garage and made a shop space. Wife's dad no longer uses his tools, so they needed a new home, except he wanted to hold on to his table saw. Two days later, a 10" Craftsman appeared on CL for $20. Wow.

Only problem? No electricity. Have to run a cord from the house. Table saw draws 28 amps briefly as it starts up! Hang in there, circuit breaker!

[Cantplay]

That looks like the same Atlas table saw I have.

John

[amplifiednation]

Nice drill press!!!

Here's a thought - throw an ad up on Craigslist to barter amp mods/repair for electrical work. I bet you'll have that power in a few days - and the working will be to code. Only trade with a licensed master electrician. That will release you from any liability.

You will probably want a sub panel with 60A-100A depending on what you are running. I would get a 220v outlet while you are at it, but not necessary. You can always get 220v later if you get tools that require it.

I can't believe that saw pulls 28A...how many HP is it?

[xtian]

Taylor: saw is a one-HP motor!! Only pulls 3 or 4 amps when up to speed. Spike is just when powering up.

I already had my electrician out; he put a GFI inline with the garage's old panel, and now I can plug my extension cord into the garage's old wiring, so all the lights and outlets work. I just have to limit my load to 15 amps or so.

Major problem with the power is that the original run from house panel to garage is 100+ feet through a root-bound backyard. Digging a new trench would injure my revered magnolia tree. There are other options, but none are cheap, and cheap or free is the operating mode for seven more years of higher education…minimum…

[Colossal]

Major problem with the power is that the original run from house panel to garage is 100+ feet through a root-bound backyard. Digging a new trench would injure my revered magnolia tree. There are other options, but none are cheap, and cheap or free is the operating mode for seven more years of higher education…minimum…

I don't know anything about residential code, but any reason you couldn't have a line run above ground with periodic support around the perimeter of your yard (or where appropriate) to the panel at your shop? In any industrial setting, wiring is run in hard conduit/piping along walls, ceilings, etc as needed. Or does this qualify under the non-cheap and/or non-free option?

I wouldn't think you should have to endanger your tree at all.

[xtian]

Yes, my electrician said we could fly in wire from the corner of the house to the garage. That's about 40 feet. Not bad, but with crawling the attic, junction boxes, wire, labor, we're looking at $500.

So, some time in the future.

[Reeltarded]

Nice space, great features. Put an un-sag resistor inline with the power.

[xtian]

Nice space, great features. Put an un-sag resistor inline with the power.

Think you're on to something, but it should be a 10 farad, 120v capacitor, right? Well, that would work if it was DC.

[Reeltarded]

Aha! What is the neighbor's B+?

Yiu could run a center tap from him to elevate your AC.

[amplifiednation]

The work I just had done in my shop would have easily pushed $500 if I called someone in, I traded for a recover and literally raced this guy, restored his Marshall 4x12 while he did the work. It was a great trade-but he prob thought the same.

There's lots of electricians around here who will trade, I bet you can get a hit on an ad in your area. Tune up, bias, power scale, or mod out an amp and you'll be flying saw dust with code wiring in an afternoon.

If the saw is pulling 28A on startup, is it popping your breaker? Aren't most residential breakers rated at 20A?

Great looking shop by the way...I would love something not in our basement!!

[xtian]

Re 28 amps: electrician said the breaker takes a few seconds to heat up before it will flip. Indeed, I ran the table saw a few times tonight. Doesn't flip the breaker, but the lights on the same circuit dim radically. Makes me feel like a mad scientist, for shore.

[Reeltarded]

And... why not? MuhahahAhahHaa..

[Gibsonman63]

Just a thought. A lot of those motors have connections to wire them for 2-phase, 220VAC operation. My table saw does. If you are pulling new wire, it would be a nice option and you would pull half the starting current... more or less. I have been discussing a trade with an electrician buddy to wire up my shed for me and he came up with that recommendation.

[M Fowler]

I was going to suggest a time delayed breaker like I used on my beer coolers (because of the compressors kicking in) when I own a bar/grille but studying the subject shows it is not a good idea.

Mark

[xtian]

Got a stiff dose of, "Cabinetry is a skill acquired via patience, knowledge, and practice, not an enjoyable recreation for rank amateurs." Though I did get certified on all the shop equipment in high school, I haven't attempted any precision joinery since then. First dovetails, ever. Not perfect.