New build complete: CE Silverface 6V6 HRM

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Re: New build complete: CE Silverface 6V6 HRM

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dcribbs1412 wrote: Any comments on the Brown Drops yet?
Darin
Darin, I haven't done any A/B testing. Now the last build used NOS CDE brown drops, this build has all Mallory PVC brown drops. Without a dedicated controlled test mule it's hard to be objective on just a capacitor when each build has a different circuit, voltages, tonestacks..etc.

In the perfect world, I would like to take chassis and do that with other ears present.

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Re: New build complete: CE Silverface 6V6 HRM

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dcribbs1412 wrote:(new amp adjective?...)
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As in the next one?

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Re: New build complete: CE Silverface 6V6 HRM

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ToneMerc wrote:
dcribbs1412 wrote:(new amp adjective?...)
Darin
As in the next one?

TM
Tm
just using what I thought might be a new adjective to describe your build.
BTW whats on the list next...maybe be that SSS 01 thingy

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Re: New build complete: CE Silverface 6V6 HRM

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dcribbs1412 wrote:
ToneMerc wrote:
dcribbs1412 wrote:(new amp adjective?...)
Darin
As in the next one?

TM
Tm
just using what I thought might be a new adjective to describe your build.
BTW whats on the list next...maybe be that SSS 01 thingy

Darin
Well, I need to finish up that high plate, skyliner, high voltage build that I started on last Dec. I'm basically redoing the first amp I built in a CE chassis. The last work I did on it was the main board back in Jan. I put it off because I went about obtaining all the correct taper pots and once I found those, I continued to slack off. But you know what, I sat it in the cradle this morning. So if it rains, I will work on that this weekend. I might even put up some pics in a few.

Hmmm, I'm leaning towards a blonde amp. If things actually come together maybe a SSS, but it's not really on my radar.

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Re: New build complete: CE Silverface 6V6 HRM

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ToneMerc wrote:Moment of truth or smoke!

Loaded it wth TS RI 6V6's, JJ83's in V1& V2 and a balanced LPS in V3.

Pri: 124.8V , highest I've recorded since I've been here.

Heater: 6.22V @V1

Bias string: 750>10K>16K

B+ string: 600>16K>1.6K

V1: 173/178
V2: 179/183
V3: 274/280

Looks like I need to drop that 600 to increase everything about 8-10V and then maybe increase the 1.6K a bit.


Plates: 402
Screens: 400

Bias: 21-22 range

FET:2N4416A, 21/10


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did you go RF in the od TS.. or std??
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groovtubin wrote: did you go RF in the od TS.. or std??
;)
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Jim, 47K/390pf and V2 has 216pF snubbers. Trimmers are 25K, 500K, 250K.

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HRM

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ToneMerc wrote:
groovtubin wrote: did you go RF in the od TS.. or std??
;)
jim@Omegaamps
Jim, 47K/390pf and V2 has 216pF snubbers. Trimmers are 25K, 500K, 250K.

Mike
SAWEET!! I`m really diggin the 330pf, i went std 470K/500p into a 120K tho....fatter than a lorey hedge! It freaks out on the ej fuzz, i have ta HANG ON for dear life when i hit that button! lolol!! ;)

May i ask What did ya build on that alum 100 watt metro chassis i sold ya? Wouldn`t mind getting another one, have a 4X6V6 river city jcm 800 clone here for jack change, that`s really nice! The EJ fuzz into the low gain channel w/boost off is a serious tone!

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groovtubin wrote:
ToneMerc wrote:
groovtubin wrote: did you go RF in the od TS.. or std??
;)
jim@Omegaamps
Jim, 47K/390pf and V2 has 216pF snubbers. Trimmers are 25K, 500K, 250K.

Mike
SAWEET!! I`m really diggin the 330pf, i went std 470K/500p into a 120K tho....fatter than a lorey hedge! It freaks out on the ej fuzz, i have ta HANG ON for dear life when i hit that button! lolol!! ;)

May i ask What did ya build on that alum 100 watt metro chassis i sold ya? Wouldn`t mind getting another one, have a 4X6V6 river city jcm 800 clone here for jack change, that`s really nice! The EJ fuzz into the low gain channel w/boost off is a serious tone!

jp
Thanks Jim, the OD ent is 478K/470pf>192K>25K trimmer. I wanted to try something low on the snubbers first.

Nothing with it, other than get a faceplate for it.

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Re: New build complete: CE Silverface 6V6 HRM

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Anyone have the PPS board diagram that you used Tonemerc, I got mine from jborders but for some reason it is not the same as the boards currently being used and I want to make sure I wire this up correctly.

The six holes on the bottom L to R: 3 on left are for B+1, 4th hole is ground for B+2, last 2 is B+2 positive. Correct:?:

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M Fowler wrote:Anyone have the PPS board diagram that you used Tonemerc, I got mine from jborders but for some reason it is not the same as the boards currently being used and I want to make sure I wire this up correctly.

The six holes on the bottom L to R: 3 on left are for B+1, 4th hole is ground for B+2, last 2 is B+2 positive. Correct:?:

Mark
Mark, the board pictured above is not one of Jason's PPS boards. Shortly after the very first run of CE chassis a member here(I forget who now) had some boards made for his personal use. In order to get a better deal he ordered more than he needed, sold off the extras and I purchased a couple of those.

Those boards were setup so that the standby was directly after rectifier, hence they have only six terminations. A traditional board that has the standby after the first capacitor bank node will have 8 terminals and this is what you will normally see. AFAIK, the AGB "clone" boards that Jason has offered to the public all have had 8 terminations, I 've used those as well.

However, a couple of years ago Jason did have some PPS boards made for his personal use which included a 4th power node. Those boards were very unlike(integral fred diodes, loop/reverb node, multiple grounding options)the traditional PPS board that he offers in his clone set. That board does have 6 terminations at the bottom. Do you by chance have one of those boards? I do have the diagram for that one, see attachment.

FWIW, what you don't see above or in the two builds that I've used these in is a 3 eyelet daughter board mounted under the main pwr board that allows me to config the power supply with the same functionality as the 8 termination board.

I wanted it to be transparent, I guess it works :D

TM
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Re: New build complete: CE Silverface 6V6 HRM

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Thanks Tonemerc,

I'm pretty sure my board came as a complete set from Jason. Mine doesn't follow the layout you posted.

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M Fowler wrote:Thanks Tonemerc,

I'm pretty sure my board came as a complete set from Jason. Mine doesn't follow the layout you posted.

Mark
Hmmm, I know the one's I have didn't come from Jason. All the boards I've gotten from Jason had either AGB Designs or AGB Amplifiers silkscreened on them. Nevertheless, here's the scheme.

1-3) from standby, to choke, OT
4) screen ground
5-6) from choke, screen supply

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Re: New build complete: CE Silverface 6V6 HRM

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Thanks that's the way I wired it.
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Re: New build complete: CE Silverface 6V6 HRM

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ToneMerc wrote:
M Fowler wrote:Anyone have the PPS board diagram that you used Tonemerc, I got mine from jborders but for some reason it is not the same as the boards currently being used and I want to make sure I wire this up correctly.

The six holes on the bottom L to R: 3 on left are for B+1, 4th hole is ground for B+2, last 2 is B+2 positive. Correct:?:

Mark
Mark, the board pictured above is not one of Jason's PPS boards. Shortly after the very first run of CE chassis a member here(I forget who now) had some boards made for his personal use. In order to get a better deal he ordered more than he needed, sold off the extras and I purchased a couple of those.

Those boards were setup so that the standby was directly after rectifier, hence they have only six terminations. A traditional board that has the standby after the first capacitor bank node will have 8 terminals and this is what you will normally see. AFAIK, the AGB "clone" boards that Jason has offered to the public all have had 8 terminations, I 've used those as well.

However, a couple of years ago Jason did have some PPS boards made for his personal use which included a 4th power node. Those boards were very unlike(integral fred diodes, loop/reverb node, multiple grounding options)the traditional PPS board that he offers in his clone set. That board does have 6 terminations at the bottom. Do you by chance have one of those boards? I do have the diagram for that one, see attachment.

FWIW, what you don't see above or in the two builds that I've used these in is a 3 eyelet daughter board mounted under the main pwr board that allows me to config the power supply with the same functionality as the 8 termination board.

I wanted it to be transparent, I guess it works :D

TM
ToneMerc,

I purchased that set of boards.
Here is a picture of the board from the layout that you posted.
Do you have the layouts for the other two boards that were part of the set?

By the way, great job on the build.

Thanks,
Henry
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super100 wrote: I purchased that set of boards.
Here is a picture of the board from the layout that you posted.
Do you have the layouts for the other two boards that were part of the set?

By the way, great job on the build.

Thanks,
Henry
Thanks Henry and thanks again for the cab.

Here ya go, all four.

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