Here's some pix of INA - cabinet work done by John Eberl of CT - master cabinet maker extraordinairre. My previous studio date got delayed but I'm supposed to go in end of March so I'll have some clips then - I'm still experimenting with this amp - I had a Hellatone Vintage 60 in the cab before and it was nice - however this is a Celestion Alnico Gold and is supposed to be great - we'll see once she breaks in a bit.
Tubes are Winged C on the output and Mullard Westinghouse / Mullard everywhere else - at least thats this week....
INA Finally Done (for now)
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What a beauty! Congrats! Looking forward to hearing the clips
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Nice!! Can the alnico gold handle the output power??
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Hey Paul - the Alnico Gold is a sixty watt rated speaker, developed by Celestion for just that reason - to have a high powered version of the Blue. Reports have been good from what I have read, very similar in tone to the Blue...
Of course, as you and I have discussed before, not everyone likes the sound of an alnico speaker... I prefer ceramic magnets myself.
Of course, as you and I have discussed before, not everyone likes the sound of an alnico speaker... I prefer ceramic magnets myself.
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Wicked cool! Very Art Deco. If it sounds half as cool as it looks, it'll be killer.
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paulruby wrote:Nice!! Can the alnico gold handle the output power??
We blew one in Kenilworth. It's still somewhat of a mystery as to what happened as the failure was under less than scientific conditions. I will say that there were a lot of amps and a lot of speakers in play that day, the Gold was the only reported failure.doctord02 wrote:Hey Paul - the Alnico Gold is a sixty watt rated speaker, developed by Celestion for just that reason - to have a high powered version of the Blue. Reports have been good from what I have read, very similar in tone to the Blue...
There are any number of Celestions that will handle anything an Express will dish out. I'd prefer not to risk a substantial portion of my paycheck on this particular amp / speaker combo.
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Mr. Ruby is right. The Express is well over 60 watts when played dirty! You need at least two of those speakers!
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sorry if its a stupid question, and i dont mean to offend, but if you went through the trouble of getting such a nice headbox and matching cab made, why rip off the komet connie look?
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Sorry Ive been away on vacation - thanks for your comments - made my day, coming from you folks whom I respect so much.
Tthe Alnico is supposed to handle 50 watts - we'll see what it does, but frankly I use an attenuator all of the time so I doubt if I'd ever hit 60 watts with the express anyway. AND I plan to build a Liverpool with the output tube switching from 2 to 4 so that wont be an issue either. Not sure which head will eventually reside in the box.
I may even go with a 2x12 using Vintage 30s instead - this single speaker was an accident and a new baffle board is being made incase I don't like this. It'll be easy enough to convert and I can use the Alnico in my 18watt GDS combo easily enough. The advantage for us older guys is 1 speaker is lighter than two - especially in a hardwood cab.
The "ripoff" goes way way back for an old wooden floor model radio look -besides, I like it and its for me, and not for sale. Komet also uses tolex and I didn't. The other aspect of it is with the open back and grilled sunray front there is lots of air circulation for the EL34s or 6V6s whichever I use. I suppose I could have inverted it to be different, but what the hey...... no offense taken and its not a dumb question - its just when something looks good to you, you go with it. Kudos to Komet for the basic idea but I likes my version better.
Tthe Alnico is supposed to handle 50 watts - we'll see what it does, but frankly I use an attenuator all of the time so I doubt if I'd ever hit 60 watts with the express anyway. AND I plan to build a Liverpool with the output tube switching from 2 to 4 so that wont be an issue either. Not sure which head will eventually reside in the box.
I may even go with a 2x12 using Vintage 30s instead - this single speaker was an accident and a new baffle board is being made incase I don't like this. It'll be easy enough to convert and I can use the Alnico in my 18watt GDS combo easily enough. The advantage for us older guys is 1 speaker is lighter than two - especially in a hardwood cab.
The "ripoff" goes way way back for an old wooden floor model radio look -besides, I like it and its for me, and not for sale. Komet also uses tolex and I didn't. The other aspect of it is with the open back and grilled sunray front there is lots of air circulation for the EL34s or 6V6s whichever I use. I suppose I could have inverted it to be different, but what the hey...... no offense taken and its not a dumb question - its just when something looks good to you, you go with it. Kudos to Komet for the basic idea but I likes my version better.
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It's sharp, man!DerStever wrote:when something looks good to you, you go with it.
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understand completely. it does look nice. and i can definitely tell its different than a connie.
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While we are on the subject though - according to a thread on another site - clipping is more dangerous to a speaker than clean - so that being said am I still even with the attenuator in danger of taking out the gold Alnico say at 4 DB attenuation and running the amp at 2:00 per se?
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That's safe. At 4db down, you're taking away more than half the power to the speaker. So, it's the same thing as asking if two of these speakers could handle the power and I think so...DerStever wrote:While we are on the subject though - according to a thread on another site - clipping is more dangerous to a speaker than clean - so that being said am I still even with the attenuator in danger of taking out the gold Alnico say at 4 DB attenuation and running the amp at 2:00 per se?
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SWEET amp, man. Gorgeous.... How do you like that Gold so far???
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The Gold sounds really good - my first cab with this was an open back Fender Twin II cab with a Celestion V30 and Greenback - this gave me some nice bass and jangle - glistening highs. However the single Alnico does the same if not better - its a great speaker for this amp and I suspect if I put a 'pool in there it'll be even nicer.