Degooping hard epoxy

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Degooping hard epoxy

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Does anyone have a tip on doing this on a PCB with some epoxied components? I only need to remove about 1 inch worth. I have an adjustable heat gun but thought I would ask for tips first before attempting.
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sonicmojo wrote:Does anyone have a tip on doing this on a PCB with some epoxied components? I only need to remove about 1 inch worth. I have an adjustable heat gun but thought I would ask for tips first before attempting.
What amp is it?
Pretty difficult if it is potting epoxy designed for the purpose without destroying something.
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It's actually a boutique effect pedal that I've been having a lot of screeching feedback issues with and wanted to maybe add a smoothing cap to it but unless I can see what I am dealing with, it is not really possible. It's not a big loss if I kill it but I was thinking since it is PCB and not point to point wiring, it may not be possible. Maybe I can add a 1500pf cap on the level pot instead. I hate goop.
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In my knowledge no way to remove epoxy without damage something

the only way I know is by mechanical action

a little burr in a Dremel or other sistems

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Dremel tool, very, very carefully. If you can clamp the Dremel in place and move the board instead of the other way round, you might find control is better.
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you could try that freeze spray stuff.
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Heat and a dental pick works sometimes but assume you might destroy it in the process, usually better achieved with a small local heat gun like an Ungar used for shrink sleeve. I would advise asking the maker though, maybe he could tell you the best way to tweak it or make you a different version. Most people are eager top please their customers. What happens if you roll down your volume on the guitar to like 8 or 9? Most guys I know when using tube screamer type pedals never put the guitar on 10 and dont use a treble bleed for that. Also try a longer cable before you hit the pedal and not ultra low capacitance.
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Aqua Regis (royal water) will dissolve epoxy but unfortunately also everything that's hiding under it.
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John, thanks for the advice on the cables. I recently set up my pedalboard with some RG400 cables to the amp. I may experiment a little bit with a different return cable too. Thanks for the replies. I think I'm going to punt the idea and go back to a tubescreamer clone.
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VacuumVoodoo wrote:Aqua Regis (royal water) will dissolve epoxy but unfortunately also everything that's hiding under it.
Oh, yeah. I have some of that. :shock:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_regia
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Re: Degooping hard epoxy

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Epoxy resins should dissolve into Acetone?

It's an Organic Ketone and thus should be ok with the components, provided you don't get much on them.

Hope this helps.

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Acetone works on uncured epoxy resins. I've never seen acetone do anything to cured epoxy. This is from experience w/ fiberglass boat repairs.

The only way I've ever removed cured epoxy is physically, through sanding, grinding, etc.
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If you look at the spec sheet for some encapsulating epoxies you'll see that acetone will indeed disolve it...after 30 days of submersion :lol:
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PWE Amplification wrote:If you look at the spec sheet for some encapsulating epoxies you'll see that acetone will indeed disolve it...after 30 days of submersion :lol:
... as well as the circuit board. :lol:
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I bought degooping liquid from one of the encapsulation/epoxy makers. It took about a month of soaking and dental picking to get past it. By the time i got to the parts, the values had come off and each part had to be measured. It's a tough process. You have to decide if it's worth it.
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