Do you use effects with your Trainwreck (clone)?

[jezzbo]

and if you do, what kind of effect(s)?

thanks!

[Gibsonman63]

For my Express, I use a few things:

Dunlop Hendrix Wah. Wah works well once you have enough volume to get your sustain going.

Ibanez UE-300 multiFX. I bought it new in 1982. It is basically a TS-9 with the XS-9 series compressor and chorus in a single package. I use the tube screamer a lot and the chorus on a couple of things. I never use the compressor. I am getting tired of rebuilding the footswitches, but I can't find a tube screamer that sounds better to me.

Phase 90 for a couple of Trower songs. My original survived years of beer and Jack Daniels. I quit drinking a couple of years ago and spilled a Gatoraid on it and it was never the same even after several attempts to revive it. I broke down and bought the EVH version. It sounds a little better, but that blue LED will blind you.

I am contemplating a delay, but I haven't found one I like yet for live. For recordings, I just add it in the mix which is better because you can control the pan of the delay separately from the dry.

[sliberty]

I use my standard pedal board. In general, the only I don't do is push heavy distortion through the amp from a pedal. I much prefer the amp's grind. But I do use clean boosts, wahs, reverbs, trem/chorus/rotary, etc. No issues.

[jezzbo]

I use my standard pedal board. In general, the only I don't do is push heavy distortion through the amp from a pedal. I much prefer the amp's grind. But I do use clean boosts, wahs, reverbs, trem/chorus/rotary, etc. No issues.

So since you use reverb and chorus I asume you use it in front of the amp?
Is'nt that a problem with the gain of the TW amp?
Like you get (amp) distorted reverb?

Does the boost ad a lot? (since there is allready a lot of gain in the amp)

I do understand the use of lets say a vibe or wah in front of the amp.

Thank you both for your replies.

[sliberty]

Having effects like reverb and chorus in front of the amp is very common, and the question you asked about distorted reverb, etc. is not specific to a TW. It would apply to any amp that has nice overdrive (Marshalls for example). For me, this is not a problem. But if you don't like the way overdriven reverb sounds (for example), then you would have to resstrict yourself to clean amps and you'd have to achieve your distortion with pedals that came before the time based pedals. Or, you would have to use an amp that provides good preamp distortion, and place your time based pedals in the effects loop which usually comes after the preamp.

Personally, I want my amps to provide good power tube overdrive, and I don't mind having my time based pedals in front - no problem.

As for the boost, I use it for either a lead boost (not much additional overdrive), or to goose the amp a bit. it works well. I tend to keep my Express a little cleaner than most (split plate load resistor and 12AT7 PI). I also play with a Rocket more than an Express, which is also reasonably clean. So the boost pedals work really well. The one I like the most is the AMZ MOSFET Booster.

[redshark]

NO I don't use effects playing with an express. If I had to I would use tuner and wah, that's it!!!!!

[funkmeblue]

line out into my echoplex and then into a boogie satellite 60. Some times my crybaby or and old phase 90 in front of the amp.

[don280z]

No effects here...They just add noise and hisssss......

[redshark]

No effects here...They just add noise and hisssss......

Exactly!!!

[RJ Guitars]

My 2 cents = Pedals work well with the Rocket... not so much with an Express or Liverpool.

[jezzbo]

My 2 cents = Pedals work well with the Rocket... not so much with an Express or Liverpool.

That's what I was thinking too.
but I don't own a TW at the moment. (I(m thinking about a express clone)

Thanks everyone for your replies

[M Fowler]

I do not use pedals with my Express or Liverpool only the Rocket.

Mark

[sliberty]

You guys are all such purists.

Just once, for me, play a Univibe sort of pedal through your Express, and rip some Trower. You'll realize that pedals are not evil

For the record, I really use my pedals very sparingly. But I don't avoid them with the Express.

The Rocket on the other hand, can handle more types of overdrive/distortion pedals than the Express can for obvious reasons. but actually, I play the Rocket when I want a cleaner, lighter sound. So I still don't push it very hard.

[rawnster]

Shoot, I used lots of pedals with my Rocket and Express builds. Never had an issue at all. TIM overdrive, Small Fry, DL4, Vox Wah, Nocturne clean boost, old Ross chorus, SupaTrem. They all sounded killer. To me, those two circuits handled pedals just fine. And I play in a 2,500 seat Auditorium every week at my church. Modern worship music pretty much lives in pedal world for guitarists...and that's where my old Rocket and Express shined.

[M Fowler]

Ah you guys are just trying to sell us pedals

Mark