Relay Boards

General discussion area for tube amps.

Moderators: pompeiisneaks, Colossal

User avatar
David Root
Posts: 3540
Joined: Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:00 pm
Location: Chilliwack BC

Re: Relay Boards

Post by David Root »

I don't see the problem. You can mount a DIP on the eyelet board same as a separate relay board. Just make the eyelet board a bit wider or longer.
User avatar
The New Steve H
Posts: 1047
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 11:24 pm

Re: Relay Boards

Post by The New Steve H »

Here's the obstacle. The flanges on eyelets are so big, if you put the eyelets close together so they mate up with relay pins, the flanges touch, and everything shorts out.

Last night I soldered wires to the pins on a relay, flipped it over so the pins were facing up, bent the wires so they pointed in the opposite direction from the pins, and secured them to the relay with a cable tie to provide strain relief. It works, but it's not something you would be eager to display in a gut shot.
Relax. It's SUPPOSED to smoke a little.
surfsup
Posts: 1513
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:21 am
Location: Chicagoland

Re: Relay Boards

Post by surfsup »

The New Steve H wrote:Is there any respectable way to mount a relay on an eyelet board? [...] Here's the obstacle. The flanges on eyelets are so big, if you put the eyelets close together so they mate up with relay pins, the flanges touch, and everything shorts out.
As I posted you can get 1/16" eyelets from mouser:

Mouser Part #: 534-25

I unfortunately forgot to edit this to be 1/16" x 1/16" for thinner G10 but if you have 1/8" thick G10 to use, these are the little eyelets that are about as big as one pin on a DIP socket or the relay. Gotta be accurate with the drill though. What eyelets were you using?
Last edited by surfsup on Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
ToneMerc
Posts: 3480
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:55 pm
Location: East Coast

Re: Relay Boards

Post by ToneMerc »

The New Steve H wrote:Here's the obstacle. The flanges on eyelets are so big, if you put the eyelets close together so they mate up with relay pins, the flanges touch, and everything shorts out.
Steve, you are correct. However, it can be carefully done if you use 1/16" or 3/32" eyelets for the relay pin sockets. The smaller diameter eyelet of course will have a smaller topside flange. The eyelets are tied together with 22awg buss wire.

Here's a couple; one with 1/16" eyelets to outboard 3/32" eyelets and another with DIP sockets and 3/32" eyelets to outboard terminals.

TM
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Last edited by ToneMerc on Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:39 pm, edited 3 times in total.
User avatar
The New Steve H
Posts: 1047
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 11:24 pm

Re: Relay Boards

Post by The New Steve H »

Great info. I had no idea those things existed.

More stuff to order, I guess.
Relax. It's SUPPOSED to smoke a little.
User avatar
Structo
Posts: 15446
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:01 am
Location: Oregon

Re: Relay Boards

Post by Structo »

surfsup wrote:
Structo Regarding the non latching i think you n i are saying the same thing, which is why im confused. If it doesnt stay connected, it would switch the effect.channel.pab in, then right back out...?
Here is the diagram for the relays we use.

There is the common lugs which are #4 and 13.

Then there is the normally closed, 6 and 11.

The 8 and 9 lugs are normally open when no current is present.

When no current is on the coil, 4 and 6 are connected as well as 13 and 11.

When the coil is energized, now 4 and 8 are connected as well as 13 and 9.

It is a Double Pole Double Throw switch.

Hope this helps. :D
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Tom

Don't let that smoke out!
ApexJr.
Posts: 225
Joined: Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:46 am
Location: Torrance , Cal
Contact:

Re: Relay Boards

Post by ApexJr. »

Hey Guys....

Checked my stock of 12Vdc relays and here's what I have in stock

Omron G5V-1 $1.00ea 500 in stock
Omron G5V-2 $1.50ea 500 in stock
Omron G6A-234P-ST-US $1.50ea 800 in stock

These are not listed on my website.


Steve @ Apex Jr.
surfsup
Posts: 1513
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:21 am
Location: Chicagoland

Re: Relay Boards

Post by surfsup »

structo/tom thanks again. I understand the way the actual relay works.

I think I have it, though, a latching footswitch is needed to switch properly with the relay.

If I run without boost, and want to switch in boost, I depress the footswitch (latching) and it will connect to the relay, switching open the NC connection, and closing the NO. The footswitch is latching, and will therefore continue to give power to the relay which will keep the NO closed until I depress the footswitch again to turn it off.
User avatar
David Root
Posts: 3540
Joined: Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:00 pm
Location: Chilliwack BC

Re: Relay Boards

Post by David Root »

Actually the ones we use are "non-latching". I'm really not too clear on the difference. But non-latching relays are not momentary contact switches, as long as the current is on the coil they stay in the NO position.
Post Reply