Gretsch hollowbody with express clone?

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Gretsch hollowbody with express clone?

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hi all,

Did any of you every used a hollowbody gretsch with an express clone?
and if yes, how did you like it?

I'm asking this because I recently played my silver Falcon through a Axe-fx2.
And the simulation of the "trainwreck" model (modeled after an express I think) was very impressive. Since the axe is overkill for what i use (and still modeling ;-)) I'm thinking on building a trainwreck clone.

Thank you for your help.
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Hollow Body with an Express

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One of my guitars is a Taylor T5 (thin body acoustic/electric hybrid).
I use it with my TW clone and it works very well.
The hollow body resonates and allows me to get some very cool feed-back effects.... :lol:
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Re: Gretsch hollowbody with express clone?

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I have a taylor T5 as well, but find the "hiss" that comes with it is much greater then any of my true electrics. Through my rocket clone, the hiss is quite significant and noticeable. I believe it has to do with the active pickups in the preamp of the guitar. How did you work around that issue, or have you had this issue at all??
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I'll be playing my gretsch semi hollow through a 4gain express soon. will let you know once i'm finished with it.
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Re: Gretsch hollowbody with express clone?

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jezzbo wrote:hi all,

Did any of you every used a hollowbody gretsch with an express clone?
and if yes, how did you like it?

I'm asking this because I recently played my silver Falcon through a Axe-fx2.
And the simulation of the "trainwreck" model (modeled after an express I think)...
Listen to some of the representative clips in this forum to learn about the various Trainwreck (Express/Liverpool/Rocket) amp tones.

I have a latent (and well-founded) distrust of models - especially regarding Trainwreck amplifiers.

The (real) Express tends to get LOUD very fast and could be very demanding to control with a hollow bodied guitar. Are you doing the Ted Nugent kinda thing?
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When I first built the amp, I had some noise but soon discovered it was my pedalboard causing it. When I run straight into the amp, I have no noise (or hiss)issues at all and actually prefer it this way. The amp does what it is supposed to do (go from clean to mean with the guitar volume control). I also have the PPIMV installed which makes the amp easier to use, yet still sounds great (so my friends tell me).
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If you need a pedal board, the Rocket is much more friendly.

The Express is more guitar-cable-amp oriented. An alternative to the master volume is using a lower gain tube in the first stage - that'll lower the overall gain and knock down noise as well.
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The Express is borderline about-to-melt-down amp. I get it to feed back with solid body guitars just by changing my body position compared to the speakers...I truly can't imagine how over-reactive a hollow body would be!

I'd like to add a +1 to a modeling amp not being able to get 1/10th what a Trainwreck does. Sure, it can EQ the tones to sound like an Express, but the magic in a Trainwreck lies in it interactivity with the guitar and player.

Seriously, I've caught myself *thinking* about notes and they seem to start feeding back (in a good way). It's a lovely thing when it's really on the edge like that.
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Re: Gretsch hollowbody with express clone?

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I had a guy over playing through the Express and he was getting tones I never got, he was playing a semi-hollow body Tele and loved the volume control interaction.

I was wishing he would buy it and take home the two were perfect for each other. Me I struggle with the Express. :lol:

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Zippy wrote:
jezzbo wrote:hi all,

Did any of you every used a hollowbody gretsch with an express clone?
and if yes, how did you like it?

I'm asking this because I recently played my silver Falcon through a Axe-fx2.
And the simulation of the "trainwreck" model (modeled after an express I think)...
Listen to some of the representative clips in this forum to learn about the various Trainwreck (Express/Liverpool/Rocket) amp tones.

I have a latent (and well-founded) distrust of models - especially regarding Trainwreck amplifiers.

The (real) Express tends to get LOUD very fast and could be very demanding to control with a hollow bodied guitar. Are you doing the Ted Nugent kinda thing?
Haha it's funny you came up with Ted Nugent. I actually do think he made some great sounds in the seventies.

That loud aspect, could maybe be dealed with powerscaling or the airbrake?
Or will the magic be lost?

Thanks everbody for your reply. (and i'm sorry to reply so late myself)
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Haha it's funny you came up with Ted Nugent. I actually do think he made some great sounds in the seventies.
I remember the GP interview where the Nuge said he'd fill those Byrdlands with Clear Cast. I was young then but I knew what a Byrdland was and thought what a f'ing jerk, just get solid body custom made with a 23.5" scale neck. He should've gotten El-Kabonged by Grady Martin.

Vintage dealer question: if you find an orig Nuge Byrdland filled with Clear Cast is it worth more or less that a stock Byrdland? :? :P

Hell, now why don't I get a Tele made with a 23.5 neck? :idea:
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Re: Gretsch hollowbody with express clone?

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Uh oh with all these comments I think I'm going to have to stick to the LP for the Express! Hmm, wondering if I should go with a standard 3gain express now...maybe 4gain is too much, but Fowler loves 'em so I'm torn!

I haven't soldered the turretboard yet (waiting on two capacitors that are really good at playing "hide and seek" so I just ordered two more).
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Re: Gretsch hollowbody with express clone?

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The four gain Express is no longer a TW it is a Marshall. :)

They are completely different amps.

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Re: Gretsch hollowbody with express clone?

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I play a semi hollow ibanez artcore through my 15 watt liverpool. It rules and I dont really want to play anything else ever. Its to loud though. Needs the Hall power scaling thing bad.
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Re: Gretsch hollowbody with express clone?

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I play a Yamaha SA500 semi-hollow through my liverpool
It's wild but will do anything you want

controlled feedback on tap

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