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jestaudio
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Re: Relay popping noise

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Ok , after alot of hard graft and a major rewire of the boards i found a load of dry solder joints on the eylet boards which i have redone and relaed the cable with some i had left over from a small build, its now at the point where it pops the first few times i operate the OD switch then is as quite as a mouse, got to admit i,m a bit perplexed now, i can only assume the pop is from a cap initialy unloading.
All ideas gratefully recieved.
On a side note,to anyone in the uk, i source my comsumables from Ampmaker and Watford valves, boyh are recommended for cable and pots
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Re: Relay popping noise

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T Wilcox wrote:Yeah I've said nothing but good things about Ceriatone since I got my first amp build from them( OTS pack 2 ). The second I decided to do a 2550 pack 1 using MC iron and Nik actually helped me pick the correct trannie because the first one I almost bought was not quite correct. Turned out very well!
Dont know whats going on over there but I just contacted him regarding a HRM build in which I just want the board and chassis only and plan on sourcing most everything else. Well along with the order I asked if he could also include a few of the minor parts that could turn out to be a PITA to find .
He got back to me that he does not do custom orders anymore.
Normally I would not have been bothered but on the damn website it specifically says:

We offer PTP boards, chassis, kits, and full working chassis. No order is too small for us, and we let you customize however way you want.

If you don't see it, we can do it!

Well, since i have found that it will not be so hard to find all the other little parts so I will probably get the HRM board and chassis only and put the rest together myself.

I suggest you go to the C-tone site and leave a review!


Todd
To be honest Todd i cant be bothered, its not worth the grief and i,m not going to lower myself to a slanging match, i would suggest you check the boards carefully as this seems to be the bulk of my problem, numerous bad joints and poor quality cable, all the best with your next build
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Re: Relay popping noise

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For whatever is worth... i remember a while ago i had that same poppin noise from relay switching but not on a dumble type of amp. The solution was very simple really.

Since you have a separate transformer for the relay switching circuit (wich provides galvanic insulation), i just separated grounds. There ya go, problem solved, no poppin or switching noises whatsoever. Dead silent during switching.

Dont know if it will work for you but i think this is a better solution than 10 meg resistors, caps across contacts, etc. At least in my honest humble opinion. A quick look at the #183 schematic tells me that this solution is also possible in the ODS.

Take care!
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Re: Relay popping noise

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Don't want to get into any "slanging" either. But to put some persepective on issue that hasn't even been definitively resolved yet, but the blame for it has been difinitevely assumed.

I have gotten and seen nothing but top notch workmanship and qualtiy from Ceriatone. And Nik is one heck of a nice and accomidating guy.

That's all.
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Re: Relay popping noise

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turbo5speed wrote:For whatever is worth... i remember a while ago i had that same poppin noise from relay switching but not on a dumble type of amp. The solution was very simple really.

Since you have a separate transformer for the relay switching circuit (wich provides galvanic insulation), i just separated grounds. There ya go, problem solved, no poppin or switching noises whatsoever. Dead silent during switching.

Dont know if it will work for you but i think this is a better solution than 10 meg resistors, caps across contacts, etc. At least in my honest humble opinion. A quick look at the #183 schematic tells me that this solution is also possible in the ODS.

Take care!
Thanks for that, the problem has now been totally solved, yet more duff joints on the dil socket of the relay board, lloked fine when i measured them with my meter but broke down on the earthing when under minimul load
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Re: Relay popping noise

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SoundPerf wrote:Don't want to get into any "slanging" either. But to put some persepective on issue that hasn't even been definitively resolved yet, but the blame for it has been difinitevely assumed.

I have gotten and seen nothing but top notch workmanship and qualtiy from Ceriatone. And Nik is one heck of a nice and accomidating guy.

That's all.
glad you have had no problems with ceriatone, my isue is not so much workmanship ,after all anyone can get a off day but the suggestion that somehow if you don,t use all his components that is automatically the fault, i may not be particularly experianced with valve tech but i certainly am not stupid either, in any case all the issues have been sorted and i now have a totally silent amp which actually sounds far better than it did on intial power up.
Peace and goodwill to all D type builders :D
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Re: Relay popping noise

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jestaudio wrote:
turbo5speed wrote:For whatever is worth... i remember a while ago i had that same poppin noise from relay switching but not on a dumble type of amp. The solution was very simple really.

Since you have a separate transformer for the relay switching circuit (wich provides galvanic insulation), i just separated grounds. There ya go, problem solved, no poppin or switching noises whatsoever. Dead silent during switching.

Dont know if it will work for you but i think this is a better solution than 10 meg resistors, caps across contacts, etc. At least in my honest humble opinion. A quick look at the #183 schematic tells me that this solution is also possible in the ODS.

Take care!
Thanks for that, the problem has now been totally solved, yet more duff joints on the dil socket of the relay board, lloked fine when i measured them with my meter but broke down on the earthing when under minimul load
Anytime mate. Glad you worked out the problem.
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