Dumble video/sound clip reference, real Dumbles only please

[Billion81]

Not sure if this one made it up here yet. You can see (I think) the SSS in the background.

This was the version of Cliffs that made it into the GP tear out pages and essentially put EJ on the map for the general guitar playing world though we would have to wait a few years before Tones came out.

We played that damn sheet until it was ruined.

Enjoy-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-KbX5C1 ... re=related

Even more rare is this one-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrrGoaJ_ ... re=related

[Max]

You can see (I think) the SSS in the background.

Indeed, but as far as I understand this correctly:

"After the recording of Tones, he went to a three amp setup with Twins for a clean rhythm sound, the Dumble for a dirty rhythm sound and Marshalls for solos."

source: http://www.ericjohnson.com/index.php?op ... 9&Itemid=8

his SSS was not a part of his lead guitar tone at that time.

Cheers,

Max

[Max]

John Mayer's silverface late 70's ODS combo:
(You'll see it under a Two Rock Sterling)

Hi Greg,

great clip of course, but IMO there is no way to tell apart for sure, if we hear the Dumble, the Sterling or the other Two-Rock amp on the 2x12 in this clip. Or do you know from other sources, that this is only the Dumble?

All the best,

Max

[boldaslove6789]

Indeed, but as far as I understand this correctly:

"After the recording of Tones, he went to a three amp setup with Twins for a clean rhythm sound, the Dumble for a dirty rhythm sound and Marshalls for solos."

source: http://www.ericjohnson.com/index.php?op ... 9&Itemid=8

his SSS was not a part of his lead guitar tone at that time.

Cheers,

Max,

I agree completely. Eric was using the SSS for his "dirty rhythm" tone. Why though? No one really knows..... Although I've heard from a few folks that claim the Eric Johnson SSS is the most musical sounding of them all (Which is very subjective IMO). The SRV "KTC" amp is said to be quite stiff sounding for the average player because the amp was based around JB's 150w "White Glove" Dumbleland just voiced for guitar, Although IMO the John Mayer 100w SSS is really beyond musical and can bloom like a mofo' just clean.

Hi Greg,

great clip of course, but IMO there is no way to tell apart for sure, if we hear the Dumble, the Sterling or the other Two-Rock amp on the 2x12 in this clip. Or do you know from other sources, that this is only the Dumble?

All the best,

Max

Yes you are right, there is no actual way to tell because of his multi-amp config.

John Mayer does not use the typical amp setup ( one amp for clean, one amp for rhythm, one for dirty). He has all his amps on an amp switcher and every amp has its own dedicated cab. He can switch on any amp alone or together pending the song etc + he can route any effects to any amp via remote switching presets from the CAE switcher.

IMHO I think the ODS combo is switched on (alone) in the break of the solo when everyone kind of quiets down @ around 2:26 Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a81NgSvR ... re=related

You can also see him open his eyes to switch either a pedal off, or a completely different amp that doesn't have a pedal's OD on it. The reason I think this is because of the sound getting extra scooped @ that point, you also have to keep in mind that he rarely uses the OD in any of the Dumble ODS he owns (endless he's recording etc.)

That clip is also right around the time he started using the SSS instead, and any Dumble ODS amps were scraped from his rig in light of 100w 1 channel clean only amps (The SSS, his Signature Two-Rock, and a Dumble Modded Bandmaster for the Leslie).

Here's and example of how fat sounding the JM 100w EL34 Skyliner Dumble ODS w/ Dumblator + his T-R sig is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruMX0GrvwAI


A pic of his 07' rig. (the Sterling was switched out in favor of the SSS, a Dumble modded Bandmaster is added (for leslie) and the ODS is kept @ home.

(EDIT): The Dumbleator II is for the Sterling Sig BTW

[Billion81]

Correct- I didn't mean to imply that he used the Dumble for leads.

IIRC- Eric always referred to the SSS as " a high powered Twin" and given the dirty rhythm assignment of that amp it makes sense.

Still- I find the Tones era EJ tone was the best he ever had, Although his Electromagnets tones were pretty cool too as he was not running the post source delay.

I played a show with Eric in '89 and could not make heads or tails of that crazy rig. Kyle Brock took me through his rig but I was baffled at the way he had his rig configured.

You can see (I think) the SSS in the background.

Indeed, but as far as I understand this correctly:

"After the recording of Tones, he went to a three amp setup with Twins for a clean rhythm sound, the Dumble for a dirty rhythm sound and Marshalls for solos."

source: http://www.ericjohnson.com/index.php?op ... 9&Itemid=8

his SSS was not a part of his lead guitar tone at that time.

Cheers,

Max

[Max]

Hi all,

Only few of around perhaps 300 Dumble amps seem still to be used these days by professional recording artists. When doing some research for the "Dumble reference thread" I noticed that always the same few current users come to mind. One reason may be of course, that most of the original Dumble amps now reside in living rooms or bank vaults. But another reason could perhaps be that their users are not as well known to the public as Santana or Robben Ford.

So it would be great if some of you could perhaps add some more names to the list and could perhaps even post what details you know (bluesmaster, skyline HRM, transition generation etc.) and for what records and tracks these amps have been used?

Perhaps someone knows as an example for which productions the rental Dumble amps of Ultra Sound Rehearsal have been used?

And because being a great and inspired musician AFAIK is not always the same as being famous and well known to the public, perhaps adding some more names to the "Dumble users list" would perhaps introduce all of us to some "new" great players and music, too.

So if you know of an original Dumble amp that has been or is still used for studio and/or live recordings, it would be great if you could perhaps post what you know.

BTW: For all researches concerning “who plays on what track or record” this for an example is a fine instrument: http://www.discogs.com/

search result example: http://www.discogs.com/Michael-Jackson- ... ase/485002

All the best,

Max

[boldaslove6789]

Check this OUT!!! (SSS)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6POSqjjrIA

[ChrisM]

Hot interview lady, cool vid.

[Structo]

Thanks Greg that was a good interview with Renee.

[dogears]

First clip is the Glaswerks. Hence the "gw" at the end of the name.

Demo by Mr Scott Lerner Non HRM EL34 Skyliner 100watter #183


http://www.scottlernermusic.com/dumble/ ... tCSAgw.mp3

http://www.scottlernermusic.com/dumble/ ... tLast2.mp3

[Max]

Rene Toledo playing a Dumble ODS (skyline HRM):

"Te Amaré, Te Odiaré": http://www.eneltono.com.pe/18645_malu-t ... are_Online

"Esta Vez": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLaoWeu0-Ac

Both songs are from this record: http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=3679455 or http://www.amazon.com/Esta-Vez-Malu/dp/B00005YA8F

The amp has been discussed here: https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.ph ... hlight=203

Rene Toledo on MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/renetoledo

Cheers and a nice weekend,

Max

[carlygtr56]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hcj2uhjN5s

[Structo]

This was probably already posted but is one of my favorite Robben songs.
Peace of Mind


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7OINxfK ... re=related

[Max]

4th generation Dumble ODS 100W classic EQ (probably "low plate"):

The link to the clip you find here:

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showpo ... ostcount=4

Doug Doppler > "Soloway > Dumble Overdrive Special > Eventide TimeFactor > 1971 Marshall 4x12 cabinet loaded with Scumback H75s and M75s in an X pattern > Royer 121 (left mic), AEA R92 (right mic) > AEA The Ribbon Pre > Pro Tools"

"Outstanding amp. The FET input was probably my favorite feature - just gave the amp a tremendous amount of character in the front end. The tone stack bypass was also a MAJOR plus. Just really opened the amp up. I'll post more clips here, but I'll add the from Country to Hendrix, there was so much range and touch that was wonderfully musical!"

source: http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showpo ... stcount=20

Cheers,

Max

[Mac Daddy]

Hi Mac Daddy,

could you perhaps post this clip in the Dumble reference thread and add perhaps some info concerning the guitar, speaker cabinet, speakers, recording gear etc.?

Thanks and all the best,

Max
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMC7-p8LlM4 clip delete and redone

This clip has been recorded with 183 , A TR Sig 2/12 Cab With 2 TR WGS speakers and a P90 JG guitar along with just a Lex Jamman
no looper or any other special cables , Just plug in and play
While the playing and recording is poor , I'm just trying to show the essence's of 183 playing thru a P90 Varmint

The Cam is a cheap hand held Samsung video recorder