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BM clip with my newest axe

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I finally got an HB guitar thats a keeper. After endless single coil clips from me, hear's one with 'buckers. More Marshally than Dumble this time around...

Description: Rock type clip recorded in a small room at band practice volume using Audacity software

Amp desc: D-Clone, BM style
output desc: 2x EL-34 JJ
Loop desc: Built in D'lator, always on
Channel: OD
Boost desc: low boost(stack lifted from ground 27k), mid boost

settings (as clock)
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Gain 2
T 1
M 10.5
B 9.5
Drive 10
Level 10
Send 3
Return 9
presence 2

Mic: SM58
Placement: 2" from grill, aimed at edge of dustcover
FX: none (dry)
Guitar: 2004 Hamer Studio Custom
Stock?: yes
Pickup(s) 2 X Seymour Duncan '59
Pickup active: bridge
volume: full
Tone: full
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Schwang!
I have wanted to try one for the longest time.

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Some of those Hamers are outstanding.
Is yours solid or semi?
You have to be knowledgeable to know which are which on the good ones.

Sounds great! :D

Some guys are really into Hamers. :shock:

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Hamers are great guitars.
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Mines solid, but I would love to try some their semi-solids, like the artist.
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a bit "mid heavy" for my taste, but great texture on the mids and nice grainy gain.
A solid rock tone.
good axe too, hamer are very good guitars!
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Tonegeek

Sounds good but isn't gain and level at 10 way too much? The BM is that designed for more mid range in the first place? This is not the BM HRM right?

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M Fowler wrote:Tonegeek

Sounds good but isn't gain and level at 10 way too much? The BM is that designed for more mid range in the first place? This is not the BM HRM right?

Mark
U may be thinking in terms of 1 - 10 but I am using "clock" comparisons so drive and level would be at 10 oclock

Not sure what the thinking is behind the BM other than the tone stack and PI is like a Marshall. The BM is a HRM variant (both have the OD tone stack). My amp started out as a HRM and I changed it to the BM circuit which I prefer for this amp.
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Yes your correct I was thinking it was maxed out at 10 not 10 o'clock.
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massygt6 wrote:a bit "mid heavy" for my taste, but great texture on the mids and nice grainy gain.
A solid rock tone.
good axe too, hamer are very good guitars!
I go back and forth on the upper mids if that's what you are referring to. When I first start out playing (alone) for the day I usually don't use the mid boost, but after my ears compress, then I kick the mid boost on. If I am at band practice, then I end up with mid boost and sometimes even the bright switch to help cut through the mix. My mid boost and especially bright circuits are both tamed versions of the Dumble values.
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M Fowler wrote:Tonegeek

Sounds good but isn't gain and level at 10 way too much? The BM is that designed for more mid range in the first place? This is not the BM HRM right?

Mark
I believe even though the BM is more marshall based it actually has less mids than #124 type builds. The BM tonestack has less mids and the PI less headroom
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M Fowler wrote:Tonegeek

Sounds good but isn't gain and level at 10 way too much? The BM is that designed for more mid range in the first place? This is not the BM HRM right?

Mark
I believe even though the BM is more marshall based it actually has less mids than #124 type builds. The BM tonestack has less mids and the PI less headroom
Yep, PI breaks up sooner. Not sure the mids are less, just in a different range. The upper mids to me are smoother with the BM stack than what it was with the Skyliner stack. But, you have to factor in that my amp has a Marshall OT driving EL-34s. Not sure how it would sound with 6L6's and the matching OT as I havent heard one like that other than recordings. I built a #124 and the Skyliner stack sounded great, much better than it sounded when it was in my HRM. The mid content was more low mids giving it that oboe tone and the high mids were just right with no spikes.

My clips don't do this amp justice. I can't seem to capture the full bass content that I hear live. (might explain some of the mid heavy comment) I am probably using the wrong mic, probably not placing it well either, and through freebie software. Since the cab is a 2x12 (G12-65's) I wonder if I am getting some phase cancellation by where the mic is placed. I could use some pointers on that. I would like everyone to hear what I hear.
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