First amp clip in over a year! Bludo MM +Rack

[dogears]

Here it is... Just a quicky. SM57 shoved to G1265. No tweaking mic positions, turning amp knobs, first take....... Baker B1. I need to record the Carruthers CSA. Much more singing and better tone.


Loopalator, TC2290 167ms delay, and Eventide Eclipse in parallel with Switchblade for reverb. A little IR Verb added during mixdown.


http://www.scottlernermusic.com/Bludo/TIGBludo.mp3

Amp is Music Man high plate Skyliner with 6L6 tubes

[talbany]

Killer!!

Love the MM.. Wollie

T

[fabiomayo]

Excelent!!!

[JD0x0]

sweet tone and playing. WOW

[Bob-I]

Hot damn, that sounds great.

Someday I gotta bring my amp down to your place and see if you can get it to sound anything close to that.

[pinner]

Amazing all around!!!!!!! What interface and program did you use?

[Blindog]

That's what I'm talkin' about! Very nice playing. The amp don't sound half bad either

What's the backing track?

Mark

[Deric]

Nice!! Killer tone. Killer playing. What's not to like!

[wjdunham]

Wonderful sounding clips Scott (these and the others you've been posting). Here's something that I'll throw out there to see what others think. There's one particular note bend (A to Bb?) at 15 seconds into the clip that to my ears sets apart "good" from "great" (in the case of this clip, magical). There's a certain quality to the breakup of the note that Scott is able to coax from the amp, that I believe has to be in the amp before even the greatest fingers can bring it out. I say this because it's the one thing in my amps that seems to be missing. My chops are nowhere near Scotts', but I spent a lot time with this clip and that particular note is the one that seems to stand out as "the sound" that I just can't reproduce. When I set the amp to get the basic tone of the clip, that one particular note just seem to clean, no matter the pick attack that I use, but when I crank up the drive more to get that note to go, the lows start getting muddy.

By the way, I hear this quality in Garth Weber (another great player) playing Henry's amps as well.

I'd love to hear other's take on this. Do you hear the same thing I do right there? Maybe it's not that significant but it just hits my brain's musical pleasure center? Maybe I'm thinking about this too much? Maybe I have cat ears in stead of dog ears

Bill

[BobW]

Fantastic tone Scott! I assume the plate resistors (among other components) are not per the #124?

[Pete]

There's one particular note bend (A to Bb?) at 15 seconds into the clip that to my ears sets apart "good" from "great" (in the case of this clip, magical). There's a certain quality to the breakup of the note that Scott is able to coax from the amp, that I believe has to be in the amp before even the greatest fingers can bring it out. I say this because it's the one thing in my amps that seems to be missing.
... I spent a lot time with this clip and that particular note is the one that seems to stand out as "the sound" that I just can't reproduce. When I set the amp to get the basic tone of the clip, that one particular note just seem to clean, no matter the pick attack that I use, but when I crank up the drive more to get that note to go, the lows start getting muddy. ...

I'd love to hear other's take on this. Do you hear the same thing I do right there? ...

Bill

I think I hear what you are referring to. I can get some of that with my amp although it seems a little brighter here in the room. The touch must be light, at least not beyond a certain threshold. Bridge HB, PAB, G1265 (helps tame the brightness at the right frequency). To me, if you attack it wrong or too hard it can be a bit buzzy, and I always use the rounder side of a standard shaped pick. I don't seem to have any problem with muddy lows. HTH
Scott may have dog ears, but those paws are well refined also.

[talbany]

There's a certain quality to the breakup of the note that Scott is able to coax from the amp, that I believe has to be in the amp before even the greatest fingers can bring it out. I say this because it's the one thing in my amps that seems to be missing. My chops are nowhere near Scotts', but I spent a lot time with this clip and that particular note is the one that seems to stand out as "the sound" that I just can't reproduce. When I set the amp to get the basic tone of the clip, that one particular note just seem to clean, no matter the pick attack that I use, but when I crank up the drive more to get that note to go, the lows start getting muddy.

I sincerely mean this as no disrespect.. But in the case of the breakup quality and the artifacts you mention much of this has to do with the builders interpretation..(Give 2 chef's the same recipe never the same)..it's in the details..Voltages what type caps are used where various tweaks, voicing etc and of coarse AXE & PLAYER!!
With reference to that particular note.... breakup quality is different depending on frequency response (guitar and amp) to me this is where a big part of the interaction and expression comes in(sort of like spinning up a leslie) to me to play off those qualities adds another dimension eventually breathes into your playing a cool thing.. In hearing Scott's clips of the simulator I don't really get that quality..In the tube I guess.. I didn't mean to derail here and this is really just 1 man's opinion... As you can see I am big on the breakup quality of these amps.. It's a big part of what drew me into them in the first place.... Just 1 mans view..100 watters do it better..As you were!!

Tony

[wjdunham]

Tony, I see where you are coming from. There are so many variables in addition to the player, tubes, speakers, trannies, voltages, an infinite number of combanations. But, what I notice is that even through all of that my ear keeps coming back to the same basic things as "the" sound, even though each amp is a much different implementation of the same basic design. Each has their own take on it, but I hear the same qualities in there somewhere. When someone asks what's different about these amps, I usually say that amps are like spaghetti sauce, everyone knows the basic recipe, but it's all in the seasonings.

The breakup is definitely what got me hooked on this circuit, it seems to have the best ability to allow you to sit right on the edge and let the playing bring it out. When it comes out right, the notes have a raspy quality that to me sounds a lot like a sax. After listening to Scott's clips vs. mine, I am really coming to the conclusion that a lot of what I was blaming on the amp is due to the player in stead.

[talbany]

Tony, I see where you are coming from. There are so many variables in addition to the player, tubes, speakers, trannies, voltages, an infinite number of combanations. But, what I notice is that even through all of that my ear keeps coming back to the same basic things as "the" sound, even though each amp is a much different implementation of the same basic design. Each has their own take on it, but I hear the same qualities in there somewhere. When someone asks what's different about these amps, I usually say that amps are like spaghetti sauce, everyone knows the basic recipe, but it's all in the seasonings.

The breakup is definitely what got me hooked on this circuit, it seems to have the best ability to allow you to sit right on the edge and let the playing bring it out. When it comes out right, the notes have a raspy quality that to me sounds a lot like a sax. After listening to Scott's clips vs. mine, I am really coming to the conclusion that a lot of what I was blaming on the amp is due to the player in stead.

Yeah!! I know what you mean and I didn't intend to bring up the old dead hoarse subject of yeah it's in recipe bla bla.. I just thought in this case it really did apply more so than normal..Maybe Scott can shead more light on the subject!!Good Luck with your amps..

Tony

[bluesfendermanblues]

................I am really coming to the conclusion that a lot of what I was blaming on the amp is due to the player in stead.

I'm totally with you on that one. I've had periods where I thought my #124 clone 'had lost it' - until I realised that I play much too hard on this amp. Its much more demanding to play (if you want the 'on edge breakup'), than say an ordinary Fender Super + tubescreamer. I've been getting used to pick hard like SRV in order to cut through in a band setting. I keep forgetting that, the saxophone tonality of the D amps lie as much in the abillity to vary ones picking attack. It seems like you gotta (re)calibrate your tough on the guitar in order to get the goods from these amps - is that frustrating? yes, but I love it. These amps feel great

PS: I saw a clinic with Dave Weckl a couple of month ago. He emphasized the fact that each drum hit must vary in velocity - similar to picking your strings with varying attack.