bridge rect + fixed bias

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Smokebreak
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bridge rect + fixed bias

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I'm working on a d'lite whose donor iron gave me way too much B+ . I swapped out for the Weber WPTGP http://taweber.powweb.com/store/PTGPsch.jpg , and I've got B+ where I want it, but my fixed bias circuit(express) ain't happening. I'm looking at this scheme : http://www.ampegv4.com/images/schematics/V4B.jpg, and I'd like to make it adjustable, but I'm not sure where to sub my 25K trimpot.
I'm assuming R49,50 will need to tweaked, and the trim would go at R60.
I'll have ~430 plates w/ 6V6.
Any suggestions?

edit I've got 230VAC on top and bottom of bridge
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Re: bridge rect + fixed bias

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Well I've got neg voltage now, -55V, but R60 is not the spot for the trimmer. It does nothing there, and I do not understand why.
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Re: bridge rect + fixed bias

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Here's Marshall's bias supply circuit from JCM900. You can tweak R30 to get where you need to go for the correct bias range. I'm not making sense of your voltages, though. If you want 430VDC, then you will need HT VAC around 430/1.414 = 304.
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Re: bridge rect + fixed bias

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Ok thanks, well I put a trimmer in R50 on the Ampeg scheme, and I've -50 all the way down to 0.
Should I add resistance from trimmer to ground so my bias never has the opportunity to goto 0?

I imagine the voltages may be due to the funky PT I'm using? I just checked again and AC legs are 186V and 212V with respect to ground, and B+ is 440VDC. Between the secondaries is 331VAC though, so somehow I've got a 1.3 multiplier happening..
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Re: bridge rect + fixed bias

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Measure across the HT leads to get the input voltage to the bridge, so your 331 makes sense, as you will typically only get about 95% of the 1.414 factor. I'd rather not put the trimmer on the high voltage divider, and keep the 56k there to limit the current draw and the voltage across the input cap.
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Re: bridge rect + fixed bias

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Ah i didn't even think of that trimmer being right on the HV leg. Thanks a bunch.
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