Early 60's layout for an AC-30 with Top Boost incorporated.

Vox and Hiwatt Discussion

Moderators: pompeiisneaks, Colossal

Post Reply
Mark
Posts: 3271
Joined: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:10 am
Location: Sydney Australia

Early 60's layout for an AC-30 with Top Boost incorporated.

Post by Mark »

There are a few layouts about for an AC-30, however I have yet to see a layout for an AC-30 with the Top Boost incorporated. I know they exist as I have played original amps with the TB incorporated.

Look forward to your replies.
Yours Sincerely

Mark Abbott
User avatar
Turret
Posts: 217
Joined: Fri May 04, 2012 11:32 am
Location: Cotswalds, UK

Re: Early 60's layout for an AC-30 with Top Boost incorporated.

Post by Turret »

Hi Mark

This is my AC30/6 layout http://www.turretboard.org/?p=1108
...and top boost unit http://www.turretboard.org/?p=2392 it's explained how it should be fitted. I hope it is what you have asked for

...if not, I can join both layouts together for you

Cheers
Mark
Posts: 3271
Joined: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:10 am
Location: Sydney Australia

Re: Early 60's layout for an AC-30 with Top Boost incorporated.

Post by Mark »

I'll keep digging and I will eventually get the real thing. Thanks for your offer though. I'm wishing to add a pentode to the tones available from an AC-30.
Yours Sincerely

Mark Abbott
User avatar
Turret
Posts: 217
Joined: Fri May 04, 2012 11:32 am
Location: Cotswalds, UK

Re: Early 60's layout for an AC-30 with Top Boost incorporated.

Post by Turret »

So you're after AC30/4 then... I can't get decent picts of one. Finding one for personal inspection is even harder

I was thinking that Top Boost units was mostly associated with later AC30/6

Good luck
User avatar
Masco
Posts: 251
Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:36 pm
Location: Maryland

Re: Early 60's layout for an AC-30 with Top Boost incorporated.

Post by Masco »

Sounds like you want the layout of the integral TopBoost AC-30 that has six valves in a row on the vertical chassis and extra treble and bass controls on the top panel. Not the add-on rear "L" bracket TopBoost.
Weber makes this style chassis.
Adding the EF86 channel option: Since the Normal and TB channels share the first dual triode 12ax7, you'd either have to drop the TB channel to add the EF86 channel and associated controls or, to have your cake and eat it too, build the EF86 circuit on an "L" bracket and fit it to the rear just like the added TB. You'll just need to figure out where to put an extra input jack or maybe steal one of the existing high/low inputs.
User avatar
Masco
Posts: 251
Joined: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:36 pm
Location: Maryland

Re: Early 60's layout for an AC-30 with Top Boost incorporated.

Post by Masco »

sorry double post
Last edited by Masco on Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:48 am, edited 2 times in total.
Mark
Posts: 3271
Joined: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:10 am
Location: Sydney Australia

Re: Early 60's layout for an AC-30 with Top Boost incorporated.

Post by Mark »

That is precisely what I'm talking about Masco. I'd use the L bracket for the EF86 and I'd attach the pentode input to the normal channel inputs. The idea being the normal channel and pentode channel work together as shown on the 65 amp London pro video's on You Tube. It would mean to use either the pentode or the triode solely then the volume of the stage not required would have to be turned to zero.
Yours Sincerely

Mark Abbott
User avatar
rooster
Posts: 1622
Joined: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:50 am
Location: Pacific NW

Re: Early 60's layout for an AC-30 with Top Boost incorporated.

Post by rooster »

Mark, see:

http://www.amazon.com/Service-Engineers ... 0955216710

I have this book, it's a great reference if you are serious in your path. I also have access to 3 original AC30/6s which also helps a great deal in the actual building part. FWIW, I also think the Weber chassis is a relatively good replica. The two part Weber chassis has one part made of aluminum, while the other part, the tranny mounting part, is steel. This is like the original Vox product, however Weber insists on chrome plating the steel part - which makes it harder to solder to if that's your build method. Have fun.
Last edited by rooster on Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:56 am, edited 1 time in total.
Most people stall out when fixing a mistake that they've made. Why?
Mark
Posts: 3271
Joined: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:10 am
Location: Sydney Australia

Re: Early 60's layout for an AC-30 with Top Boost incorporated.

Post by Mark »

Thanks Rooster, I noticed the Amazon price was nearly $1000, and it is 48 pages long, must be a hell of a book! :lol:

Now to be serious for a moment I'm up for detailed AC-30 pix, though I don't want to inconvenience you, I'm still at the research stage of this amp.

Thanks again for your reply and your kind offer.
Yours Sincerely

Mark Abbott
User avatar
rooster
Posts: 1622
Joined: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:50 am
Location: Pacific NW

Re: Early 60's layout for an AC-30 with Top Boost incorporated.

Post by rooster »

Woah, Mark, I did not know this was out of print. Hm, I bought mine for $37 I think, a few years back on Amazon.

Here, try this:

http://thevoxac30guide.com/about_the_author.htm

At the bottom of this page you will see that the book and a few other things are available via Paypal. Looks like $18 euros will get it to you.
Most people stall out when fixing a mistake that they've made. Why?
User avatar
Turbojunkie
Posts: 151
Joined: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:16 am
Location: Maine

Re: Early 60's layout for an AC-30 with Top Boost incorporated.

Post by Turbojunkie »

Hi Rooster,
Does that AC30 Service Guide have any info on the '65 Super Reverb Twin model? Gonna grab a copy no matter if not, but just curious...

http://www.voxshowroom.com/uk/amp/ac30srt.html

The trapezoidal head is ultra-cool!

Has anyone here had a chance to play one personally?

Adam
First 25 years of playing, I never got along with EL84's...Now I think, WHAT THE HELL WAS WRONG WITH ME????
User avatar
Reeltarded
Posts: 10189
Joined: Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:38 am
Location: GA USA

Re: Early 60's layout for an AC-30 with Top Boost incorporated.

Post by Reeltarded »

Yes. The combo is the one to play. The heads with cabinets are just waiting for a transplant. ;)
Signatures have a 255 character limit that I could abuse, but I am not Cecil B. DeMille.
User avatar
rooster
Posts: 1622
Joined: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:50 am
Location: Pacific NW

Re: Early 60's layout for an AC-30 with Top Boost incorporated.

Post by rooster »

No, the reverb model is not addressed. And yes, I also like the trapezoidal head box but, eh, I like the stock rectangle one equally.

As to the combo box, yeah, it's kinda nice to have a AC30 combo.....until you toss it in the car. I'll stick with my head and cab version. :lol:

Either way, there is some weight involved.

BTW, a friend has an older prototype/employee-built Matchless AC30 TB style head. (He bought it for $1700 from GC with a matching 2/12 cab recently, weird story.) The controls are different (it's a one channel amp) than the typical AC30TB, with a variable switch, tremolo, no cut control and a MV. But my point is, with that typical lighting system that Matchless uses and the big filament supply, plus the over-built PT in general, his head has mine by maybe 10 pounds. I pity the old man who gets stuck on playing his Matchless combo at a gig. Haha!
Most people stall out when fixing a mistake that they've made. Why?
Post Reply