what a 4th grader was taught

[tsutt]

in school. This is for those that lambasted me over my socialist comment. it stuff like this and i have seen many, many like it.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04 ... al-rights/

And if you want you can delete it.

[tele caster]

What does this have to do with socialism?

[tsutt]

The loss of freedom is a socialist agenda. (Those who are willing to give up freedom for safety will have neither). T Jefferson. just making a point

[vibratoking]

The loss of freedom is a socialist agenda. (Those who are willing to give up freedom for safety will have neither). T Jefferson. just making a point

What point do you think you are making? Are you really trying to twist an isolated incident into an agenda? This isn't really a believable story IMO. But, in any case, if this really did happen it is wrong. So how is this an agenda? Who are the ringleaders and where else is this agenda being carried out? Quite honestly, the level of paranoia required to extraploate an isolated incident into an agenda is extreme and illogical.

By the way, that quote is from Benjamin Franklin AFAIK.

[xtian]

Also, socialism does not equal totalitarianism.

[tsutt]

Whatever, believe what you want. Mods can delete thread no problem. can also delete my membership if you like .

[vibratoking]

Whatever, believe what you want.

Thanks, I will. Especially since you made no attempt to logically back up your assertion that there is a conspiritorial agenda taking place in our schools.

Mods can delete thread no problem. can also delete my membership if you like .

Paranoia at work again? Do you want you membership deleted? If so, not logging in is the functional equivalent of deletion.

[tsutt]

No paranoia i just see things for what they really are. Things are going to get interesting real soon. Have a good day all.

[brewdude]

After 9/11 all of us gave up many liberties in order to feel safer. I don't think this has anything to do with a socialist/democratic agenda. In fact, to me its more of a fascist/republican agenda. I don't know about any of you, but "Homeland Security" does not make me feel any safer. It has a certain Orwellian sound to it doesn't it?

I wonder if the teacher was merely trying to get the students to consider the intent of the bill of rights and whether those rights are making them feel safer or not. To me it looks like the first sentence in a writing assignment intended to provoke thought and practice in argumentative essays.

What I find disturbing is that the 4th grader wrote the sentence in multiple colors of crayon.

[ToneMerc]

No paranoia i just see things for what they really are. Things are going to get interesting real soon. Have a good day all.

I guess you are waiting for the zombie apocalyse. FWIW, I will sell you some zombie killer ammo, a fresh batch just processed from Area 51 resident alien body fluids. I read on the internet how to clone the Nazi Bell and use the device to travel in real time to Groom Lake several times a week.

TM

[NickC]

That which govern best, governs least.

ALL bodies of governance are inherently corrupt, since power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The diffusion of power into the dominion of ordinary people is the best defense against tyranny and fascism. It is always best for the people to exert power over the representatives charged with securing the nation from threats, both internal and external. The consolidation of power in the executive branch over the past 200 years has been unhealthy and seriously threatens the republic. The people no longer exert control over the government. On the contrary, the reverse it the case.

Some people believe that only government is capable of solving societal problems, and that many of those problems can only be solved by the state exercising overwhelming power. That is the scenario Benjamin Franklin, one of the greatest thinkers and advocates of both liberty and personal responsibility, warned us of.

Public schools in the U.S. are controlled by teachers unions more so than parents. George Meany, former head of the AFL-CIO labor unions warned against government workers forming unions. He argued those workers could not serve two masters: both the people and the union. He argued "It is impossible to bargain collectively with the government." He was right. Too bad his wise counsel wasn't followed.

[vibratoking]

That which govern best, governs least.

ALL bodies of governance are inherently corrupt, since power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The diffusion of power into the dominion of ordinary people is the best defense against tyranny and fascism. It is always best for the people to exert power over the representatives charged with securing the nation from threats, both internal and external. The consolidation of power in the executive branch over the past 200 years has been unhealthy and seriously threatens the republic. The people no longer exert control over the government. On the contrary, the reverse it the case.

Some people believe that only government is capable of solving societal problems, and that many of those problems can only be solved by the state exercising overwhelming power. That is the scenario Benjamin Franklin, one of the greatest thinkers and advocates of both liberty and personal responsibility, warned us of.

Here, here! I agree with all of the above, but it has almost nothing to do with the original post.

[Reeltarded]

Totally, and toto lee.

[cbass]

I fear my own gov't more than I fear terrorist.

Why is a kid in 4th grade writing in crayon?

I like beer

[Cygnus X1]

Beer is good.
So good, that I make my own.

Something else to be learned from the founders.