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dogears
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Kalimba - New clip demoing both Ojai and Tag circuit

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Just a little ditty playing on "Kalimba", a sample track in Windows 7! I loaded in Sonar 8.5 just to see if I had Sonar configured right. I was surprised that I liked the track. So, I left it there and did a little improvisation on it.

I used my Carruthers CSA into the Bludo Ojai, loop and cables. I only recorded a minute of solo. This morning I had a brain storm to record more using the Glaswerks Phat Momma EL34 amp (circuit from Tag's Dumble). So, I punched in a rode it out..... Seafood and all. I kind of liked the outside bits so I am posting. Still learning Sonar so pardon any mix issues. The Glaswerks has a 47pf bright cap on the master since I use it with my rack. This was a good size and actually recorded as good or better than no loop, no cap (in my testing).

http://scottlernermusic.com/2010/Kalimb ... tMomma.mp3

Amp times summarized as follows.

Bludo Ojai - 0-1:10
Glaswerks 183 circuit - 1:10 to outro

Cabinet was G12-65 Celestions. Multimiced with SM57 and GT Hardtop. A little 168ms delay and a little verb added in mix.

Hope you like!
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Re: Kalimba - New clip demoing both Ojai and Tag circuit

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They sound pretty close through my computer speakers. Good too.
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Sounds like the Bludo has a brighter high end and "bloom". The feedback tendencies sound like an Express.
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Re: Kalimba - New clip demoing both Ojai and Tag circuit

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dogears wrote:Just a little ditty playing on "Kalimba", a sample track in Windows 7! I loaded in Sonar 8.5 just to see if I had Sonar configured right. I was surprised that I liked the track. So, I left it there and did a little improvisation on it.

I used my Carruthers CSA into the Bludo Ojai, loop and cables. I only recorded a minute of solo. This morning I had a brain storm to record more using the Glaswerks Phat Momma EL34 amp (circuit from Tag's Dumble). So, I punched in a rode it out..... Seafood and all. I kind of liked the outside bits so I am posting. Still learning Sonar so pardon any mix issues. The Glaswerks has a 47pf bright cap on the master since I use it with my rack. This was a good size and actually recorded as good or better than no loop, no cap (in my testing).

http://scottlernermusic.com/2010/Kalimb ... tMomma.mp3

Amp times summarized as follows.

Bludo Ojai - 0-1:10
Glaswerks 183 circuit - 1:10 to outro

Cabinet was G12-65 Celestions. Multimiced with SM57 and GT Hardtop. A little 168ms delay and a little verb added in mix.

Hope you like!

Sounds great Scott, but not like #183 to me. Some secrets still remain secrets. Maybe some intentional misleading going on at times online? :wink:
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Re: Kalimba - New clip demoing both Ojai and Tag circuit

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Maybe Tag. The only grey area is the size of the od1 cap. Shad says it is a .015 even though it looks like a .05. So, unless he lied, it is a .015. Also, the snubbers. I may prefer when I had 270pf in there. This is minutia though. I assure you that the amp sounds like 183. In fact, Brad posted some clips of it by mistake as the real Dumble. Fooled him.... Remember I have control clips of the real one.

Btw, you did not care for the real 183 clips either. So, maybe it just sounds and records differently for me. Or I set it way differently.

Mr Dumble wrote:
dogears wrote:Just a little ditty playing on "Kalimba", a sample track in Windows 7! I loaded in Sonar 8.5 just to see if I had Sonar configured right. I was surprised that I liked the track. So, I left it there and did a little improvisation on it.

I used my Carruthers CSA into the Bludo Ojai, loop and cables. I only recorded a minute of solo. This morning I had a brain storm to record more using the Glaswerks Phat Momma EL34 amp (circuit from Tag's Dumble). So, I punched in a rode it out..... Seafood and all. I kind of liked the outside bits so I am posting. Still learning Sonar so pardon any mix issues. The Glaswerks has a 47pf bright cap on the master since I use it with my rack. This was a good size and actually recorded as good or better than no loop, no cap (in my testing).

http://scottlernermusic.com/2010/Kalimb ... tMomma.mp3

Amp times summarized as follows.

Bludo Ojai - 0-1:10
Glaswerks 183 circuit - 1:10 to outro

Cabinet was G12-65 Celestions. Multimiced with SM57 and GT Hardtop. A little 168ms delay and a little verb added in mix.

Hope you like!

Sounds great Scott, but not like #183 to me. Some secrets still remain secrets. Maybe some intentional misleading going on at times online? :wink:
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dogears wrote: In fact, Brad posted some clips of it by mistake as the real Dumble. Fooled him....
There's no better comedy than real life!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE

VERY GOOD VERY GOOD!

Cheers and lots of fun,

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Re: Kalimba - New clip demoing both Ojai and Tag circuit

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Max wrote:
dogears wrote: In fact, Brad posted some clips of it by mistake as the real Dumble. Fooled him....
There's no better comedy than real life!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE

VERY GOOD VERY GOOD!

Cheers and lots of fun,

Max
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No doubt, TKT.

So now that Tag is permanently banned at TGP, we have to tolerate him here?
Remember, he was booted off here before..... :roll:
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Structo wrote:No doubt, TKT.

So now that Tag is permanently banned at TGP, we have to tolerate him here?
Remember, he was booted off here before..... :roll:
Tom,

but who else then could find out now wich are the wrong clips of those Mac Daddy has posted as being clips of #183? Who else knows tone? Or do you think this is not that important as perhaps "some secrets [should?] still remain secrets"? Or do you think Scott would spoil the fun of a "tone quiz" by just telling us?

Cheers and all the best,

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[quote="dogears"]Maybe Tag. The only grey area is the size of the od1 cap. Shad says it is a .015 even though it looks like a .05. So, unless he lied, it is a .015. Also, the snubbers. I may prefer when I had 270pf in there.

the OD1 cap does look a bit different than the CL2 cap in the pic I think. Although a .05 in OD1 makes for one hell of a Les Paul jr. tone!! On the snubbers I'm sure I've had some ceramic caps in the past marked 250 and it really was a 250, the last number wasn't the number of zero's.
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tubedogsmith wrote: On the snubbers I'm sure I've had some ceramic caps in the past marked 250 and it really was a 250, the last number wasn't the number of zero's.
AFAIR it is indeed a possible variant of a three digit capacitor code that 250 for an example is not = 25pF but = 250pF. But AFAIR ampdork posted that he took a measurement that confirmed 25pF:

"25pf/1KV snubber....that is not a typo that is what is printed on the caps (250K) and was measured."

But on the other hand I must admit that up to amdork's posts concerning #183 I have never heard of or seen in real life or on pictures such a low value for untouched snubbers in an original untouched Dumble ODS. And I have heard of schematics that proved to still have some "minor" faults even after the 5th doublecheck. We are humans.

Cheers,

Max
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Re: Kalimba - New clip demoing both Ojai and Tag circuit

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Also, both my cap meters will not measure the snubbers in circuit, even with tube removed. Did Shad unsolder a wire?
Max wrote:
tubedogsmith wrote: On the snubbers I'm sure I've had some ceramic caps in the past marked 250 and it really was a 250, the last number wasn't the number of zero's.
AFAIR it is indeed a possible variant of a three digit capacitor code that 250 for an example is not = 25pF but = 250pF. But AFAIR ampdork posted that he took a measurement that confirmed 25pF:

"25pf/1KV snubber....that is not a typo that is what is printed on the caps (250K) and was measured."

But on the other hand I must admit that up to amdork's posts concerning #183 I have never heard of or seen in real life or on pictures such a low value for untouched snubbers in an original untouched Dumble ODS.

Cheers,

Max
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Post by mlp-mx6 »

Great playing. The Ojai seems to want to leap into feedback a little more. Otherwise - and I've listened 3 times on 2 different computers - they sound *very* similar. Do they sound/feel the same when you're in the room with them?
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Cap unsoldered.

[img:1632:1224]http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6294/dsc02738x.jpg[/img]


Cap clipped in, cathode grounded!

[img:1632:1224]http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/5066/dsc02741o.jpg[/img]


No unsoldered wires!!! :wink:
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Post by FUCHSAUDIO »

Not sure how accurate measuring any cap in circuit is. The slightest bit of residual voltage or resistance messes up the meter's ability to get a good reading. With the tube pulled, and ANY voltage present you still have the cathode network to ground, the plate network to power supply (kinda counts as a ground), and it might sway the metering...just sayin'
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