Diabetes has struck.

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ha ha

sometimes it helps when dealing with a very high bloodsugar level to ease the feeling at that certain moment (type I)

but, it lowers ambition big time ;)
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Lou,
Apologies for being late to the party. I imagine no one like to get the news that they've got something. The good news is that you know what you've got, a great deal is known about managing it, and the doctor has what he (she) needs to help you. If this works the way I think it does, you hold your fate in your own hands. It sounds like you're moving in the right direction. Keep going!

Wishing you the best,
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Diabetes was cured at Toronto Children's Hospital in 2006. Researchers discovered that an injection of capsaicin into the pancreas of a diabetic rodent (mouse, rat) stopped the diabetes COLD. They had to fight to get their results published. WHY? Because diabetic drugs, insulin sales, needles, test strips, etc, etc, are BILLIONS of dollars a year. Here we are almost a decade later and ZERO human trials. Guess what? You'll NEVER see a human trial.

Aspartame raises your blood sugar FASTER than table sugar. So, why do they add aspartame to Novolog? Hint: That's a question you should ask your doctor if you want to see him squirm or lose his temper. Seriously, the doctors KNOW it's a racket and they know they are complicit (GUILTY) in the racket.

The Gerson diet (back in the 1950s) was developed to cure cancer. It was noted to also cure diabetes. Dr. Gerson, instead of being given accolades for his work, was persecuted and today Gerson therapy is available in Mexico. The Gerson Institute was driven out of the USA and had to set up shop in Mexico You can, of course, do it yourself. Info freely available on the web.

Whole grain rye can cure diabetes through gene therapy (gene expression). It "shuts off" genes that promote diabetes and "turns on" genes that inhibit diabetes.

Of course, you CAN just alter your diet. STOP eating grains, starches, sugars, fructose, fruit, etc, and switch to grass fed beef, natural free-range poultry, and lots of FRESH vegetables and vegetable juice.

The drugs they prescribe (Januvia, metformin, et al), will DESTROY your pancreas, rendering you PERMANENTLY reliant upon insulin injections. Think about that each time you pop one in your mouth. Januvia in particular was outlawed in the EU.
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Jerryz , are you or were you diabetic? I doubt it. Sorry, but the majority of what you just posted is conspiracy theory crap. I am afraid to say more or it will cause my blood pressure and sugar to go off the chart. Unless you are a diabetic who has been cured by your ridiculous theories , please stop fouling the waters.
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billyz wrote:Jerryz , are you or were you diabetic? I doubt it. Sorry, but the majority of what you just posted is conspiracy theory crap. I am afraid to say more or it will cause my blood pressure and sugar to go off the chart. Unless you are a diabetic who has been cured by your ridiculous theories , please stop fouling the waters.

Hang on a minute, don't be too hasty.

Good friend of mine was IT Director for a New Zealand based medical group study into diabetes. He told be they discovered a "cure" (Type 2), not merely a treatment. They developed an inject-able serum, a variant on conventional insulin harvested from pigs pancreas (as most insulin was produced before adopting recombinant DNA technology for production). It worked. However, the scientific community shunned it, claiming it was unsafe because it could conceivably introduce unanticipated porcine retrovirus hazards. That argument seems a bit of a reach, inasmuch as those same folks didn't seem too concerned about the risks of "unanticipated" recombinant DNA technology going awry.

Anyway, I wasn't there and I'm not trying to scam anyone or spin a tall-tale, but I absolutely trust my source of this information.
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NickC wrote:
billyz wrote:Jerryz , are you or were you diabetic? I doubt it. Sorry, but the majority of what you just posted is conspiracy theory crap. I am afraid to say more or it will cause my blood pressure and sugar to go off the chart. Unless you are a diabetic who has been cured by your ridiculous theories , please stop fouling the waters.

Hang on a minute, don't be too hasty.

Good friend of mine was IT Director for a New Zealand based medical group study into diabetes. He told be they discovered a "cure" (Type 2), not merely a treatment. They developed an inject-able serum, a variant on conventional insulin harvested from pigs pancreas (as most insulin was produced before adopting recombinant DNA technology for production). It worked. However, the scientific community shunned it, claiming it was unsafe because it could conceivably introduce unanticipated porcine retrovirus hazards. That argument seems a bit of a reach, inasmuch as those same folks didn't seem too concerned about the risks of "unanticipated" recombinant DNA technology going awry.

Anyway, I wasn't there and I'm not trying to scam anyone or spin a tall-tale, but I absolutely trust my source of this information.
This is the problem, type 2 is not only the lack of insulin it is that the cells in the body do not use the insulin made. Many type 2's. Do make insulin but their body is resistant to it. I make insulin, I've been tested, but my cells do not utilize it like a normal person. Metformin has very few side effects , a few that are unpleasant but not life threating. It has been shown to reduce the risk of cancer and other beneficial effects. Yes I'd rather not take it.
You cannot cure type 2 by fixing the pancreas! It would help but not cure.
Type 1 is a different story, it is almost always a pancreas that has been attacked by an auto immune response by the body. Some type 1's are also type 2 and vice versa.
There is so much misinformation out there about diabetes that it can be frustrating . There are also more than a few scam artist preying on diabetics seeking the miracle cure.
If you don't have it I hope you never get it. Stay healthy my friend.
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billyz wrote: ......
If you don't have it I hope you never get it. Stay healthy my friend.

Thanks Billy. I do have it, Type II (insulin resistance, same as you) for 12 years now. I am on a boatload of oral meds and insulin (Lantus) injections.

Stick with the treatment (no pun intended), and be well!
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billyz wrote:Jerryz , are you or were you diabetic? I doubt it. Sorry, but the majority of what you just posted is conspiracy theory crap. I am afraid to say more or it will cause my blood pressure and sugar to go off the chart. Unless you are a diabetic who has been cured by your ridiculous theories , please stop fouling the waters.
+1

I'm as cynical as the next guy and I've always joked that if cancer was cured there would be a shitload of people out of a job etc... but to state this stuff is "cured" is ignorant at best and harmful at worst by spreading more mis-information.

I have no doubt trials have been done for anything one can imagine. Maybe some show promise and most probably don't. Because some rat in a test environmnet showed promise is one hell of a stretch to saying diabetes was cured.

As I have a wife with Crohn's disease who is missing a foot of her intestine I've read crap in the past (I just stopped reading at some point) where if she ate healthy etc.. all is well. Horseshit. Sure, if we all ate healthy 24/7 life would be better, at least health wise, but stating that and then talking about curing these vicious diseases is a totally different discussion.

Just my 2 pf's.

I do have to say though my favorite conspiracy is the Flat Earth Society

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/
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billyz wrote:Jerryz , are you or were you diabetic? I doubt it. Sorry, but the majority of what you just posted is conspiracy theory crap. I am afraid to say more or it will cause my blood pressure and sugar to go off the chart. Unless you are a diabetic who has been cured by your ridiculous theories , please stop fouling the waters.
u, sir, are a sheeple. No, I'm not diabetic. I do know many diabetics, have an IQ north of 150, and studied this from a MEDICAL point of view. I understand human physiology. The problem with sheeple is they trust in the goodness of human nature.
Now, you could have taken the time to LOOK for the proof, that's why I posted a SPECIFIC you could check on, The Toronto Children's Hospital. Did you do so? Obviously NOT. You are IGNORANT and direct accusations towards me (conspiracy theorist). I don't know how old you are, but diabetes was practically unheard of. it EXPLODED on the scene in the 80s. That it is caused by poor diet is beyond dispute. Well, if I'm a conspiracy theorist, explain dr Fuhrman. (he has a You tube video you can watch). Dr Fuhrman (a REAL medical doctor with a degree and the initials MD after his name) is giving a speech to a roomful of presumably lay people. He says, "I never get my patients from the endocrinologist. They don't want to lose a customer. I always get referrals in a roundabout way." After the disease has ravaged the patient to the point that he requires a nephrologist, if the patient is lucky, the nephrologist refers the patient to me." The point is, the doctor who SHOULD be referring the patient never does. Here's how he got one patient: SHe was in the ER. The ER doc says to the lady, "DON'T tell anyone I said this, but go see Dr. Fuhrman."
And your response is EXACTLY why I didn't want to post here. I knew I would get into it with people who quite frankly are UNQUALIFIED to comment. You don't know chemistry. You don't know biology. . You don't know physiology, you don't know anthropology, and you are not medical professionals. So, you know WAY less than I do on this topic (1000s of times less would be being generous to you), and rather than expend the minimal effort to double check (and see I'm right) you resort to slander. You know how much of a putz that makes you?
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Jerryz1963 wrote:u, sir, are a sheeple. No, I'm not diabetic. I do know many diabetics, have an IQ north of 150, and studied this from a MEDICAL point of view. I understand human physiology. The problem with sheeple is they trust in the goodness of human nature...
I've tried that approach of making new friends and learned that it often fails. :lol:

Regarding the "cure", is that purported to work for both Type I and Type II diabetes?
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Lou, I wish you the all best. It sounds like you are moving in a positive direction. Here's to ya!
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Jerry,
I apologize. I did not realize that you are medical research scientist specializing in diabetes and metabolic syndromes.
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Man I'm here late too!!

Lou what you are doing of fasting and juicing is something I've been doing for 2 years on and off. I lost 60 pounds in the process.

Buy the "wheat belly" book and use that information there.

I hope you are back to health soon!! diabetes can be reversed and controlled. once again read the book.
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By the way, most of what Jerry wrote is true.

It matches with many of the things said in the "wheat belly" book.

Unfortunately it is a very good bussiness to keep people sick.


Oh well, money rules the world. :(

Anyway, Lou, if you just eat fruit and veggies raw for the rest of your life you will be in better shape than many here in 6 months. For sure!
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