FENDER Tweed Deluxe - is this the one?

[DUKEn 23]

I was just talking to my friend who works in guitar tube amps and, funny thing, he told me about an amp he as at his shop called SAMAMP VAC 23 with a 15" speaker.

Have you heard or even better, played one of these?

Thanks in advance. Cheers.

[jelle]

I have no experience with these. But honestly, try to play a bunch of amps till you find your tone. Good luck, jelle

[billyz]

Forgo the samamp, you will be glad you did. I have worked on one and cannot recommend.
For Peter green you really do need reverb along with the out of phase middle position( flip one magnet). The vibrolux rev is a very sweet amp with more clean power than a deluxe. Build a single ch version you'll be smiling every note you play.

[Blackburn]

One amp that I think really rocks the 6V6s, despite the cathodyne inverter is the Silvertone 1482. I have one from 1965 and I love it! VERY low wattage cathode bias amp that's REALLY simple and I think does what you want. I like it more than the Deluxe, as it seems to stay tighter. The B+ is lower compared to the norm of today. You could always use a SS rect instead of the seven pin 6X4. I personally like this rect, but it's cheaper and more reliable to just use diodes. The only problem you may have with this one is that it may actually be too low of a wattage. One of the best amps to dime, because of this, that I've used.

David

[DUKEn 23]

Billyz, Blackburn, God bless you brothers. I will defenitly give your words of advice some serious thought.

Thank you for the heads-up in the SAMAMP department BillyZ. As for building a vibrolux reverbe, can I reproduce it´s sparkling harmonics and sexy breakup with just a single channel, no EQ - just a tone stack knob -, no trem or reverb?

Blackburn, thanks for the schematic. Now good sir, will you be so kind and explain to me what does this mean?:

1 - "...despite the cathodyne inverter..."
2 - "...The B+ is lower compared to the norm of today...."
3 - "...I personally like this rect, but it's cheaper and more reliable to just use diodes...".

Once again, thank you all very much for the valuable inputs; they really did put "my record strait"!

Cheers

[billyz]

Sure you can build anything you want. The vibrolux/deluxe rev only have treble and bass . The mid is fixed. Just build the normal ch , no rev or trem. Use a dual pot for the tone control. You could use a switch for a mid boost even. You should study some schematics.

[DUKEn 23]

Truth be told, i sign in just to chase Ken Fisher´s TRAINWRECK. I tried to stick to my original plan (FENDER type sound). I started an 18 watts Silvatone Lite II Marshall 18 1974 clone, but, the shortage of clean headroom just drove the thing off track. I kepted on looking, found the Fender Tweed Deluxe... again, not what I was chasing... Back to the WRECKS and of from the Fender discussion section...

Thank you all. See you on the other side, the WRECK side, I mean...

Cherrs!

[billyz]

Sometimes it just does not pay.

[vibratoking]

Regardless of what I say...I want it all...in one package. Low wattage with a lot of headroom and can scream at the drop of a thought.

billy, you enjoy speaking to the wall, don't you? This time the wall actually spoke back.

[Reeltarded]

If you want it all.. might I suggest a Marshall thing?

rofl

[Blackburn]

Blackburn, thanks for the schematic. Now good sir, will you be so kind and explain to me what does this mean?:

1 - "...despite the cathodyne inverter..."
2 - "...The B+ is lower compared to the norm of today...."
3 - "...I personally like this rect, but it's cheaper and more reliable to just use diodes...".

In short...

1. This kind of phase inverter is the same used in the Tweed Deluxe. One leg is taken off the cathode and the other leg is taken off the plate. I personally don't like it, but in the Silvertone, I think it works rather nicely and, in my opinion, better than in the Deluxe.
2. The high voltage coming off the power transformer is not very high, like many amps being produced today, many of which run them beyond 400v. See the schem. I think the plates are around 345v or so and the preamp is running really cool.
3. The 6X4 is a tube rectifier. Tube rects can fail and cause problems much sooner than 1N4007 diodes will. Diodes can fail and do, but they are vastly preferred for reliability, as used in the Express and Liverpool. See the schematics for how they're set up. Something like twenty cents a piece and you need four of them. The tube will likely cost more than $10. Using diodes will result in you needing a PT with lower voltage if you want the tubes to run similarly to the schem, because you get much more rectified DC with diodes than the 6X4. I think an Edcor PT will work nicely, as some are spec'd for a low 245-0-245. Cheap too.

[Blackburn]

Regardless of what I say...I want it all...in one package. Low wattage with a lot of headroom and can scream at the drop of a thought.

billy, you enjoy speaking to the wall, don't you? This time the wall actually spoke back.

Didn't I read something about picking dynamics for cleans in the OP? This is why I suggested the 1482, because actual 'headroom' is virtually non existent.

[Zippy]

Truth be told, i sign in just to chase Ken Fisher´s TRAINWRECK. I tried to stick to my original plan (FENDER type sound). I started an 18 watts Silvatone Lite II Marshall 18 1974 clone, but, the shortage of clean headroom just drove the thing off track. I kepted on looking, found the Fender Tweed Deluxe... again, not what I was chasing... Back to the WRECKS and of from the Fender discussion section...

Thank you all. See you on the other side, the WRECK side, I mean...

Cherrs!

Take a look 'round for the Rockster 66 - TW Rocket running KT66 output tubes. Good headroom, predictable breakup - also a very friendly build (easy to get right).

[DUKEn 23]

Thank you all for the lovely replies. Sarcasm is a Universal language... in that matter, so is music. I prefer the later.

All the best for you all.

One last remark, before quoting someone else's sentences, try adding some context into the mix, and by the way, at least use the copy paste command here and there for the sake of "white noise" free communication.

Once again, thank you all for the priceless help. All the best for y'all.

"The talking wall". Over and out.

[DUKEn 23]

Thank you so much, Blackburn, for the wise words. I copied them into my research booklet.

All the best for you and your loved ones. Cheers!

Nuno Duque