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Re: Mac suck again

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Umm.. Brand new Mac, buddy. :)

My first was a 512. That' 512 as in K. i have owned a PC since Windows 4 Workgroups along side Mac IIfx and a little vx and quadras in between. The new work rig is a 12 core. The three most recent system jumps have made several currently ubiquitous hardware components into boat anchors for no reason and the install looping.. well, three days to get the 12 core up and running.. twice in a week..

Wintel machine is rolling in 2-3 hours and works with brand new hardware and 12 year old hardware. I know this because I also have a 6 month old PC for sequencing and a 2001 machine I built that runs my mastering business.

I provide support for both machines, UNIX, NT, all end user Win, and Mac for businesses here and friends of business.

When I tried to simply make a printer work, a brand new printer, and a camera's so called 'supported' software function for my 9 year old niece for 10 hours over the last two days I almost shot the piece of shit. Week old hardware, every piece. Brand new. Merry Christmas.

Apple is so smart to push us into the cloud that they forgot to put a 5 year old optical drive in the iMac like the 5 year old one that came in my 10 month old 12 core, along with the network card sporting a 2006 build date right on it..

NICE CASE.

Nice case.. form over function is not my bag. I need the tools to work. With Mac, a power user is helpless and the average user has no idea what he's missing.

Nice case.

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Re: Mac suck again

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Gee,sorry I asked -:)

Well, just to be clear, when 3rd party hardware doesn't work, it is the fault of the 3rd party hardware manufacturer, not the OS or platform company. This is especially true when a new printer is supposed to support the current OS and doesn't. That is a lack of testing, and poor driver design. If I am Toyota, and some high end audio company claims that their radio is compatible with a Camry in dash install, and it isn't, who would you blame?

I am also a computer guy by trade, and have used PCs since the DOS dinosaurs roamed the land. I love Windows 7s stability, but mainly because most other releases were so unstable. But I have now switched to the Mac, and plan to not look back for several years. By then, I figure Windows will be irrelevant.

Hardware add ons are a bitch in any OS. Try all your fanciest gear on Linux. Some will work with generic built in drivers, and others will simply be boat anchors. It is all part of the game.

My needs for the Mac are less complex than yours. I am not doing pro video or audio work. All amature stuff, so I suspect I will be fine. But if it gets ugly, and I need to bitch about it, I'll know where to come. :D
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<rant>

My first Mac was an SE/30, circa around 1985-6. You know the one ...... postage stamp sized monochrome monitor .... all the components in one small, odd shaped case. $4,000+ USD. Actually, I have two of them, in storage.

Had a long line of Macs after the SE/30. Still have them taking up valuable space in the equipment locker ..... dead from component failure, OS on floppies no longer readable, or obsolescence.

The last one was a Dual 1.25 MDD model ...... the infamous wind-tunnel machine. Fantastic DAW host ...... if you want to record tornados, jet aircraft at take-off, hurricanes, or domestic disputes. The "certified Mac vendor" knew what I wanted to do with it and sold it to me anyway. Oh sure, I could have paid thousands for an iso box ..... except I didn't have it after squandering so much on the Mac. But that's my fault for trusting them.

That Dual 1.25 could do more than the Beige G-3 (upgraded with a Sonnett G-4 processor) it replaced. A little more. But not a lot more. My collaborators could still run circles around my rig with their hand-made PCs at half the cost. But did that stop me from lusting for a G-5 ..... a nice quiet G-5? No. Only problem was the new G-5s were incompatible with dang-near everything I had. The G-5 didn't have enough drive ports, no PCI slots at all (just new-fangled PCIe) for my 4 UAD-1 cards, nor could it accept my MOTU PCI audio card. Sure, I could have bought a MAGMA PCIe to PCI chassis for thousands ..... except I still didn't have the thousands since the purchase of the wind-tunnel Mac. Yes, I know that not having money for Mac computers to replace Mac computers ill-suited for their Mac computing duties is my fault too. Yes, of course it is.

I could go on, but I'll spare everyone .... and myself, because I really don't like thinking about it.

I'm typing this post on an older Mac Mini (it has an optical drive) running OSX Lion.

OSX is still the best personal computing operating system in the known universe.

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Reeltarded: It doesn't matter that it's a new box, it's that you upgraded. I've been through the whole "I just got the latest _____ and the shit don't work!" scenario so many times it's obnoxious.

But that's happened with both Macs and PC's for me. The difference is that I got paid to fix a lot more PC's when I did both, before I switched over to just servicing digital video editing systems and audio platforms on Mac.

There's no way you can stay on top of both with the skills to do phone support, tech support, system configuration, QC, and onsite fixes/upgrades.

I used to drive 70,000 miles a year in LA for 16 years.

Now I drive 7,000 miles per year because I work out of my shop behind my house building speakers and cabs.

I am not sorry.

I'm still on call for Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy, SONY, etc. They haven't had a serious problem I couldn't fix over the phone in years, but they're not about to lose my phone # in case I have to fly out somewhere to correct a problem.

But I'm never going back to Beijing for China Central TV to fix their computers. They stiffed me for 1/2 my bill in 1996.

Long story short, new computer, new problems, whether the peripherals are old or new. I don't care what platform you're on.
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NickC wrote:<rant>

I'm typing this post on an older Mac Mini (it has an optical drive) running OSX Lion.

</rant off>
Lion on a toaster. Send me that drive or I am going to wear kittens for shoes.

Jim, it's a little inhumane at LEAST to blame the user for buying a machine. Apple already did that.
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Reeltarded wrote: Lion on a toaster. Send me that drive or I am going to wear kittens for shoes.

Jim, it's a little inhumane at LEAST to blame the user for buying a machine. Apple already did that.
Hah! I still remember the first three versions of Windoze and what they charged for the upgrades to fix them. And since HP bought Compaq, there crap has gone way downhill (I used to fix those up to 10 years ago).

Pot meet kettle on that subject, sir.

The only time my Mac crashes is when (oh, gee...what a surprise) Mac Office/Entourage does it's thrice yearly hiccup after "maintenance and vulnerability" updates.

Past that mine has been bullet proof.
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Are you saying it IS ok to shoot these things?

:D

When you say "bulletproof".. what calibers?
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Reeltarded wrote:Are you saying it IS ok to shoot these things?

:D

When you say "bulletproof".. what calibers?
Hell yeah it's ok to shoot them if you like. Damnit, do you have a gun or what?

I guess I should have said "Bulletproof from the mouse clicking standpoint."

As for real bullets, I think we both know a 4 to 6 layer PCB is not going to hold up to a 9mm hollow point. :wink:
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Its a weird transition period but in the long run its all for the best.

PT10 HD with the new 64gb ram 8 core power MAC is just awesome.

Yes you have to buy the exteral cd rom port for smaller apple products.
The thunderbolt is amazing for audio / video transfer. Minutes to copie sessions not hours.

All drivers will become available be patient. Or run them on the older platform while you wait. You can run older OX through bootcamp

Id take a MAC over PC any day.
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Southbay Ampworks wrote:
Reeltarded wrote:Are you saying it IS ok to shoot these things?

:D

When you say "bulletproof".. what calibers?
Hell yeah it's ok to shoot them if you like. Damnit, do you have a gun or what?

I guess I should have said "Bulletproof from the mouse clicking standpoint."

As for real bullets, I think we both know a 4 to 6 layer PCB is not going to hold up to a 9mm hollow point. :wink:
.308, .380, .45, .556, 9mm.. I am going to try them all.

:)
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Reeltarded wrote:
.308, .380, .45, .556, 9mm.. I am going to try them all.

:)
There you go, test that AppleCare contract for all it's worth...oh...wait...you bought AppleCare...right?
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If you don't buy it, they won't..

They don't anyhow. I am typing this from an ipad btw.
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Reeltarded wrote:If you don't buy it, they won't..

They don't anyhow. I am typing this from an ipad btw.
LOL, you are one conflicted man. Bitching about his Imac/Mac while using an Ipad to type the bitch out to the world.

I say again...pot...kettle... :lol:
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I don't use any of this stuff because I like it. For sure.
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Reeltarded wrote:I don't use any of this stuff because I like it. For sure.
Occupational hazard? What once were vices are now habits? Something along those lines? :wink: '

I hear you. I hate having so many cabs and speakers, too.

This is about 1/3rd of the current herd in this pic.

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