My #102 Build.

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Re: My #102 Build.

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I ditched the 68pf too...I think 102 sounds great!!
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Re: My #102 Build.

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dcribbs1412 wrote:Congrats jazzyjoepass
great looking build...
what speakers are you using?

Darin
I hardly play anymore, but just got into the amp building bug recently. I'm just running through a Celestion in an old Line6 Spider, but already things look really good. I can hear how it sounds through some greenbacks.
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Re: My #102 Build.

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ic-racer wrote:
jazzyjoepass wrote: Funk's chassis that I bought many moons ago and finally came round to fixing it up..
I thought that chassis looked familiar. I just completed my long-term build on a Funk chassis.
You did a good job.
Any pics of yours then ???
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Re: My #102 Build.

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amplifiednation wrote:I ditched the 68pf too...I think 102 sounds great!!

Yes !!! I ditched the 68pF and the tone network on the Preamp Out/Power IN.

Things really sound fantastic and I notice most schematics don't have that, so why the 68pF on RF's ???
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Re: My #102 Build.

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jazzyjoepass wrote:
amplifiednation wrote:I ditched the 68pf too...I think 102 sounds great!!

Yes !!! I ditched the 68pF and the tone network on the Preamp Out/Power IN.

Things really sound fantastic and I notice most schematics don't have that, so why the 68pF on RF's ???
For use with a dumblelator. 68pF sounds terrible without a dumblelator.
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Re: My #102 Build.

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I have the 68p in my 102 clone, which is always used together with a D_lator (with minimix II for paralleling effects)

Sounds great and the 68p turns the master volume into a kind om master fat control. on 9 oclock the bottom end is reduced a bit an on 12 its much fatter.
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Re: My #102 Build.

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My understanding is that the 68pf is to compensate for cable losses when connecting the D'lator. Am I correct?

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Re: My #102 Build.

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jazzyjoepass wrote:
ic-racer wrote:
jazzyjoepass wrote: Funk's chassis that I bought many moons ago and finally came round to fixing it up..
I thought that chassis looked familiar. I just completed my long-term build on a Funk chassis.
You did a good job.
Any pics of yours then ???
[IMG:640:480]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/ ... emorex.jpg[/img]
[IMG:640:480]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/ ... CF5939.jpg[/img]
[IMG:640:480]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/ ... CF5904.jpg[/img]
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Re: My #102 Build.

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ic-racer
what brand are the blue MF in your build?

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Re: My #102 Build.

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dobbhill wrote:My understanding is that the 68pf is to compensate for cable losses when connecting the D'lator. Am I correct?

2cents.....

D
yes think so, but I've learned long ago from user Dogears, that you have to regard #102 + dumbleator + cables as a "system".

And the 68p is part of that system.
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Re: My #102 Build.

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bluesfendermanblues wrote:
dobbhill wrote:My understanding is that the 68pf is to compensate for cable losses when connecting the D'lator. Am I correct?

2cents.....

D
yes think so, but I've learned long ago from user Dogears, that you have to regard #102 + dumbleator + cables as a "system".

And the 68p is part of that system.
A bypass cap on the master volume would seem like the wrong place to compensate for cable losses.

Without getting into the maths, the cable losses are pretty constant regardless of the volume played, but the compensated highs with the bypass cap is variable with respect to the master volume.

Anyone can chime on this ???
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Re: My #102 Build.

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ic-racer wrote:
jazzyjoepass wrote:
ic-racer wrote: I thought that chassis looked familiar. I just completed my long-term build on a Funk chassis.
You did a good job.
Any pics of yours then ???
[IMG:640:480]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/ ... emorex.jpg[/img]
[IMG:640:480]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/ ... CF5939.jpg[/img]
[IMG:640:480]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/ ... CF5904.jpg[/img]
Nice !!! And two of them !!! Wonder how many of these chassis with the "D" labels are circulated :)
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Re: My #102 Build.

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jazzyjoepass wrote:
bluesfendermanblues wrote:
dobbhill wrote:My understanding is that the 68pf is to compensate for cable losses when connecting the D'lator. Am I correct?

2cents.....

D
yes think so, but I've learned long ago from user Dogears, that you have to regard #102 + dumbleator + cables as a "system".

And the 68p is part of that system.
A bypass cap on the master volume would seem like the wrong place to compensate for cable losses.

Without getting into the maths, the cable losses are pretty constant regardless of the volume played, but the compensated highs with the bypass cap is variable with respect to the master volume.

Anyone can chime on this ???
The master on the amp is a set and forget thing(for me standard at noon) The real mastervolume is the last stage of the dumblelator.
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Re: My #102 Build.

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dcribbs1412 wrote:ic-racer
what brand are the blue MF in your build?

Darin
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Re: My #102 Build.

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In my travels it's best to use the bright cap before the D-lator ..Another words brighten the tone then smooth it and kill some highs using the Pf rating of the cables with the loop rather than the other way around.. With the loop attached it's a system..FWIW...With the loop in I set my master vol (on the amp) at 7, you want to drive the follower in the loop..:D

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