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Any guitar wiring experts? Please help!!!

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I just traded some gear for a hamer guitar that looks almost identical to my prs. I need a backup badly while I get my 91 prs refretted.

The guitar now has 1 volume, 2 tones and a 3 way switch. It has 2 seymor duncan pickups that are tapable.

On my prs I only use neck, bridge and the position #4 which is a coil from each pickup in phase.

Is it possoble to wire the 3 way on my hamer for neck only, one coil from each pickup in the middle pocition and then bridge only?


If so please explain. If not, what are my options?

I have a frien that mods les pauls so the tone control is a tap. When its on 1-9 its full humbucker but when you put the tone on 10 its single coil. I tried his sg like that and its cool but think about how much time it would take to go from singing treble pickup lead to clean coiled tapped pair f pickups!

Any advice will be appreciated!

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possibly every wiring scheme is here., lots of diagrams and options.

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/

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Thanks!

I actually was on that site . Besides getting the selector wired how I like it now which is 1 volume,2 tones and a 3 way.

I need to figure out a way to get a coil tap from each pickup that is humbucking. I also need to be able to get it switched on fast.

On my 91 prs I use the neck, bridge and the coil from each pickup setting and thats what I want the hamer to do. Every other guitar I have owned looses a lot of volume in those tapped settings but my PRS doesn't have that problem.

What do you think would be the best way to keep 1 volume and at least 1 tone and have neck,bridge and a humbucking coil tapped setting? Its cool having a different tone for each pickup but I'd be willing to lose one tone if needed. I wired the bridge pickup up with a .015 cap so I can set the bridge tone at zero and when I swith to the bridge pickup it is straight up woman tone1
Is there a way to wire a guitar to have those 3 settings on a 3 way switch?

should I just get another prs 5-way switch and wire it up just like that? I could put it in the place of the 3 way switch and keep 2 tone controls which is something the prs doesn't have.
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I've got a 335 style guitar I wired for independent splitting and tone controls on a three way toggle. Honestly, after going through all that I've found the guitar still lives in only about 2 settings because of how the inherent way the guitar sounds ( woods,scale,etc.),can't change that.
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Can anyone help me convert my Vol,vol, tone to Vol,tone,tone

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I decided to go with a simple volume,tone,tone and a 3 way switch instead of the factory volume,volume,tone.

I found a great schematic from seymore duncan and I tried to do it last night. I worked on it for hours and never got it going right because the switch Hamer uses isn't like a standard 3 way. It works the same but the connections aren't the same on the backside.

I got to figure out how to make it have a master volume. Its so hard to use the other volume control for swells because its so far away.

Can anyone tell me a simple way to convert a volume, volume, tone to a volume, tone , tone? There must be a simple way to do this without starting from scratch?
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can anyone think of a knowledgible forum where I could post a pic of the inside of the guitar and someone could tell me what to do?

My 3 way switch looks nothing like the switch on seymore's diagram.
This is frustrating! This guitar is one the verge of being a killer tone machine!
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I would just replace everything anyhow.
RS Guitar Works has some great kits for this.

Pricey, but well worth it.
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sidehatch wrote:can anyone think of a knowledgible forum where I could post a pic of the inside of the guitar and someone could tell me what to do?

My 3 way switch looks nothing like the switch on seymore's diagram.
This is frustrating! This guitar is one the verge of being a killer tone machine!
You can head over to the seymour duncan forums, there's plenty of knowledgeable guys over there when it comes to trick guitar wiring. Is your hamer a usa model? If it is it should look like this inside http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wi ... h_1v_2t_3w The only difference is the lugs are switched on the tone pot, I prefer it this way. I own two Hamer studios and they are great guitars, if you're not dead set on having 1 vol 2 tones then try the diagram in the link, it's a very versatile setup. Just change the stock tone cap to a larger value like a .022. The Hamer standard value of .01 sounds pretty nice in the neck but it is too thin in the bridge. You can post some pics of the insides here and I could probably help you get it sorted out but I don't usually get around to checking in every day.
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I believe when the PUs are being wound, that's when taps are attached to a PU's coil. The best you can do with the Hamer's HB's is hope to solder some leads to the start & end points of each coil by carefully disconnecting their junction and treating the HB as 2 individual coils. The wire on pickups is finer 'n frog's fur so a deft maladroit like myself needs to move very quickly with the solder pullit and iron so I don't have an HB for the repair drawer.

Prior to attaching your 2 new leads, gently isolate the magnet wire's end & sand through the enamel coating to reveal the wire within. No amount of heat makes this stuff melt and there's no solder that adhears to this enamel.

Have fun and work with the PU's removed from the instrument or damage may ensue. :oops: (Don't axe about my Les Paul's faux "buckle rash".
All excellent things are as difficult as they are rare__B Spinoza
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I believe when the PUs are being wound, that's when taps are attached to a PU's coil. The best you can do with the Hamer's HB's is hope to solder some leads to the start & end points of each coil by carefully disconnecting their junction and treating the HB as 2 individual coils. The wire on pickups is finer 'n frog's fur so a deft maladroit like myself needs to move very quickly with the solder pullit and iron so I don't have an HB for the repair drawer.

Prior to attaching your 2 new leads, gently isolate the magnet wire's end & sand through the enamel coating to reveal the wire within. No amount of heat makes this stuff melt and there's no solder that adhears to this enamel.

Have fun and work with the PU's removed from the instrument or damage may ensue. :oops: (Don't axe about my Les Paul's faux "buckle rash".
All excellent things are as difficult as they are rare__B Spinoza
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