4 pin footswitch
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Bombacaototal
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4 pin footswitch
Just wondering if anyone knows the mouser part number of the male plug to the 4pin XLR style footswitch.
I bought the following but unfortunately it does not fit:
https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/ ... cycode=GBP
I bought the following but unfortunately it does not fit:
https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/ ... cycode=GBP
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Re: 4 pin footswitch
That is is the C4F from switchcraft; according to their spec sheets you need a AA series connector; AA4M or AA4F, https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/ ... 52BAhzc%3D
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Bombacaototal
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Re: 4 pin footswitch
Awesome Erwin!! Many thanks.erwin_ve wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 1:38 pm That is is the C4F from switchcraft; according to their spec sheets you need a AA series connector; AA4M or AA4F, https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/ ... 52BAhzc%3D
I just went back through my orders and this was my original female part, C4F indeed
https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/ ... cycode=GBP
This should do the job, but 10 weeks lead time
https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/ ... d6ZZVvE%3D
This A series one should be ok
https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/ ... FXWw%3D%3D
Re: 4 pin footswitch
Edit: never mind, make sure you got a male version!Bombacaototal wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 2:32 pmAwesome Erwin!! Many thanks.erwin_ve wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 1:38 pm That is is the C4F from switchcraft; according to their spec sheets you need a AA series connector; AA4M or AA4F, https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/ ... 52BAhzc%3D
I just went back through my orders and this was my original female part, C4F indeed
https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/ ... cycode=GBP
This should do the job, but 10 weeks lead time
https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/ ... d6ZZVvE%3D
This A series one should be ok
https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/ ... FXWw%3D%3D
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Bombacaototal
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Re: 4 pin footswitch
The male XLR arrived.
On the amp female side I have wired my reverb to PIN 4, which is meant to ground the exit of the control "SEND".
My footswitch male side is wired with red to ground and white to PIN 4. I measured the PIN 4 and I get 002.1 ohms and nothing in either footswitch positions.
I measured the PIN 4 from the female XLR and I get about 55K and 0 Volts. If I ground it with alligator clips it kills the reverb, but if I use the footswitch the reverb is always present.
It looks to me, based on the alligator clip experiment, that the wiring on the female is good,but I am puzzled why the footswitch is not working. Any ideas??
On the amp female side I have wired my reverb to PIN 4, which is meant to ground the exit of the control "SEND".
My footswitch male side is wired with red to ground and white to PIN 4. I measured the PIN 4 and I get 002.1 ohms and nothing in either footswitch positions.
I measured the PIN 4 from the female XLR and I get about 55K and 0 Volts. If I ground it with alligator clips it kills the reverb, but if I use the footswitch the reverb is always present.
It looks to me, based on the alligator clip experiment, that the wiring on the female is good,but I am puzzled why the footswitch is not working. Any ideas??
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Richard1001
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Re: 4 pin footswitch
Your wiring the reverb transformer secondary to ground, this should be the output of the reverb tank i think. And then you will also need a shielded cable.
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Bombacaototal
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Re: 4 pin footswitch
Hi Richard, no I'm am grounding after the send pot and before the reverb driver, like Dumble. I prefer doing there then after the tankRichard1001 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 1:22 pm Your wiring the reverb transformer secondary to ground, this should be the output of the reverb tank i think. And then you will also need a shielded cable.
Re: 4 pin footswitch
You must use a shielded cable. And use a dedicated ground wire on the chassis socket shell.
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Richard1001
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Re: 4 pin footswitch
Ah, i see. I got confused reading about a 2.1 ohm to ground resistance.
I see in the picture that you wire pin 4 of the female plug to ground with An alligator clip connected somewhere to ground. To test the female side, i think the right test would be connecting a wire between pin 4 and pin 1. Just to check if pin 1 of the female plug is grounded.
I see in the picture that you wire pin 4 of the female plug to ground with An alligator clip connected somewhere to ground. To test the female side, i think the right test would be connecting a wire between pin 4 and pin 1. Just to check if pin 1 of the female plug is grounded.
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Bombacaototal
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Re: 4 pin footswitch
Hi Richard, I think you found my issue, thanks a lot for the help. On the female side, you are correct, I wired PIN 4 to the reverb send (dwell) pot output. On the picture in the previous post I added a "dummy" hook up cable to do the tests, as my probe was too thick. With my "dummy" red hook up cable, by using an alligator clip, when I connect the allogator clip to ground (in my case I used one of the toggle switches) the reverb stopped, which is what I want. On my female jack I only have 2 things wired, the PIN 4 and the ground point. My PIN 1 is not wired to anything, and by readig your post I understand I should wire it to the ground point, correct!?Richard1001 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:00 pm Ah, i see. I got confused reading about a 2.1 ohm to ground resistance.
I see in the picture that you wire pin 4 of the female plug to ground with An alligator clip connected somewhere to ground. To test the female side, i think the right test would be connecting a wire between pin 4 and pin 1. Just to check if pin 1 of the female plug is grounded.
EDIT: as far as the 2.1 ohm reading, it was when I was testing the pedal itself, with the probe connected on one side to the male PIN 4 and the other to the jack metal itself
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Bombacaototal
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Re: 4 pin footswitch
Hi Steve, I actually have my send (dwell) pot at the back, just behind the reverb driver socket and next to the jack. I find this is a much better design, and I just need two small cable runs, far from any other circutry, and no need for a coax cable.
As far as the chassis female socket, I have indeed grounded it, but funny enough, I was checking Two Rock 2017 amps and they do not ground the female socket anywhere
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Richard1001
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Re: 4 pin footswitch
The socket itself is grounded, beeing bolted on to the chassis. On the plug one could use outside metal housing as well.Bombacaototal wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:27 pm
As far as the chassis female socket, I have indeed grounded it, but funny enough, I was checking Two Rock 2017 amps and they do not ground the female socket anywhere
Glad you fixed the problem!
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Re: 4 pin footswitch
Got it, thanks.Richard1001 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:59 pmThe socket itself is grounded, beeing bolted on to the chassis. On the plug one could use outside metal housing as well.Bombacaototal wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:27 pm
As far as the chassis female socket, I have indeed grounded it, but funny enough, I was checking Two Rock 2017 amps and they do not ground the female socket anywhere
Glad you fixed the problem!
I will try grounding PIN1 and will report back
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Richard1001
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Re: 4 pin footswitch
You need to wire pin 1 to ground and wire the plug that way also. Using just the metal housing of the plug and socket is possible, but only if you are positive that there is a good connection. Normaly on 3 pole xlr plugs the ground is on 1 or (1 and 3 when used with 2 conductors)
The groundlug of the plug is only hooked up to shield the plug, not for a connection.
The groundlug of the plug is only hooked up to shield the plug, not for a connection.
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Bombacaototal
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Re: 4 pin footswitch
Hi Richard, I am going to try the fix now. On the male side, I should the connect the PIN 1 to the ground point I am touching with the screw driver, correct? I think this grounds to the housing of the plug. What other options would I have?Richard1001 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:31 pm You need to wire pin 1 to ground and wire the plug that way also. Using just the metal housing of the plug and socket is possible, but only if you are positive that there is a good connection. Normaly on 3 pole xlr plugs the ground is on 1 or (1 and 3 when used with 2 conductors)
The groundlug of the plug is only hooked up to shield the plug, not for a connection.
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