dogears wrote:
As one most sharing participants here, I think I know why the forum was started and I sure know of my contributions. Funny I haven't seen Nik contribute any advice, pics, info...... How about you?
All the information that I have has already been posted by others.
It was back in 1995 when I was given a few files by someone that worked
on a couple of Dumble amps. Someone put those files on the internet long ago and they are here now.
I would be glad to post new information in the future if I'm lucky enough
to come across it.
As for Nik, he has posted a layout on his website for all to see.
Has Fuchsaudio posted in the same way on this forum as you have?
What I mean is that he keeps his designs to himself.
Is that ok with you?
There are many on this forum that will never see a real Dumble or Trainwreck and as such can't post anything except for maybe an opinion on a mod they tried or a layout that others have helped him/her with.
dogears wrote:
Since I am not in business, I really don't give a rats ass, unless of course Ceriatone owners start PMing me for tweak suggestions. That day has already come as one of the guys Nik sent a kit to already has PMed me. I envision lots of tweak support on this one.
As for people contacting you to mod Ceriatone amps, you have offered in the past to do mods for a price.
You may end up making some money if you so desire.
You can let people know if you aren't willing to do it.
dogears wrote:If I was against DIYers from building these amps, I would not have sacrificed so much of my time and info.
I'm not refering to DIY builders. We all know you have no problem with that and have been very helpful.
dogears wrote:
All I know is Nik is a member who takes takes takes and to my knowledge has never contributed. I think the object of a forum is the exchange of info and not the one sided situation we have here. The other members here who have used this info have all generously reciprocated with whatever info they may have.
Maybe if Nik became a productive forumite and contributed info he has, then we wouldn't have threads like this.
Respect is earned.
It would sure be nice to see guys like Nik actually contribute and help out instead of lurk and take.
Are you saying that the only people that are entitled to build these types of amps for public consumption have to contribute on this forum?
I don't want to misunderstand what you are stating.
There are a few commercial builders that don't contribute much or anything to this forum when it comes Dumbles and Trainwrecks.
Do you respect them?
Would they earn your respect if they posted more information?
dogears wrote:I did say hypothetical. I don't know Nik from Adam. This all means nothing to me. Fwiw, there is nobody that has shared more than I regarding these amps. I have no issues with any of this. I do know my friend Brandon seemed bothered by something so I side with him. Doesn't mean I disapprove of Nik. I think it is great that many can afford the circuit. If I was against DIYers from building these amps, I would not have sacrificed so much of my time and info.
I especially don't mind since Nik has tweaked things to his taste. We'll see how the consumers like it when they are shipping.
Since I am not in business, I really don't give a rats ass, unless of course Ceriatone owners start PMing me for tweak suggestions. That day has already come as one of the guys Nik sent a kit to already has PMed me. I envision lots of tweak support on this one.
As one most sharing participants here, I think I know why the forum was started and I sure know of my contributions. Funny I haven't seen Nik contribute any advice, pics, info...... How about you?
I have over 10 different Dumbles documented, of which I have not only incredibly detailed macro pictures of some, but a bunch of degooped ones too..... And then there is all the secret schematics too.... I personally have been in them, played them, measured them, etc. I have at times shared a lot of this info with many guys here.
All I know is Nik is a member who takes takes takes and to my knowledge has never contributed. I think the object of a forum is the exchange of info and not the one sided situation we have here. The other members here who have used this info have all generously reciprocated with whatever info they may have.
Maybe if Nik became a productive forumite and contributed info he has, then we wouldn't have threads like this.
Respect is earned.
On a final note, I do wish Nik the best of luck with the amp. I have already had several friends who don't have much $ tell me they are getting one. So, I am happy that they may be happy.
It would sure be nice to see guys like Nik actually contribute and help out instead of lurk and take.
super100 wrote:
Dogears,
That is not what happened according to the post above.
You have to ask yourself if you agree with Omar's intentions and purpose for starting this forum.
There a people who are now making money
and starting a business with the help of this forum.
The main thing is that the information is available to all.
I don't feel it's right to limit our choices as to who we use to buy our parts.
The original designs for these amps came from two great designers.
New discoveries of how these amps tick are being shared everyday.
Do we now say that only certain people can use it and not others?
If you decided to start buiding amps and selling parts based on the Dumble and Trainwreck design, I would be 100% behind you.
There might be a few who wouldn't like it, but again, I would hate to think that someone would try to stop you from doing it just because they gave you some information.
We are all very lucky that we can have access to different builder's take on these amp designs.
dogears wrote:No doubt, but suppose we talk and you ask me for exact measurements for your own use and promise not to sell a competing design. This is different than your scenario. Asking for the info, getting it only because of a promise, and then using it, is not OK in my book.
However, this is just a hypothetical. Do you think such a scenario is OK?
