signal tracer
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davebolden44
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signal tracer
just wondering if anyone here uses a homemade signal tracer for troubleshooting. I was reading about this in one of Gerald webers books, he said he made his out of some high impedance headphones. was thinking of doing this as a cheap project to keep me busy while I wait for my amp kit to arrive. is it worth my time or not?
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Re: signal tracer
Worth it... You may not need it yet, but if you do you will already have it. Makes it so much easier to find out where things go wrong.
Tony
Tony
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davebolden44
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Re: signal tracer
Now when you say high impedance headphones what are we talking and how critical is that cause I have a pair of ten dollar 32 ohm headphones I could sacrifice for this. Just don't want to go deaf or electrocute myself or something.
Re: signal tracer
I am not familiar with the headphone approach unfortunately.
But..I am a big advocate of the signal tracing approach shown about 2/3 of the way down the page here:
http://el34world.com/Hoffman/tools.htm
It plugs into a known to be functioning amp as the monitor. The amp under test is loaded up with a passive load as opposed to a speaker.
Note that the 1 meg pot will place an additional load in parallel with the point in the circuit that is being tested. That may...or may not change the results. Putting a switch between the pot and ground will give you the best of all worlds.
It is the best tool in my tool box!
Rock on,
Dave O.
But..I am a big advocate of the signal tracing approach shown about 2/3 of the way down the page here:
http://el34world.com/Hoffman/tools.htm
It plugs into a known to be functioning amp as the monitor. The amp under test is loaded up with a passive load as opposed to a speaker.
Note that the 1 meg pot will place an additional load in parallel with the point in the circuit that is being tested. That may...or may not change the results. Putting a switch between the pot and ground will give you the best of all worlds.
It is the best tool in my tool box!
Rock on,
Dave O.
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davebolden44
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Re: signal tracer
Very cool stuff. Where can you find an adjustable dummy load like that. That seems like it would come in very handy.
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Re: signal tracer
Sorry.. never built one like that. I made one similar to what Dave posted.davebolden44 wrote:Now when you say high impedance headphones what are we talking and how critical is that cause I have a pair of ten dollar 32 ohm headphones I could sacrifice for this. Just don't want to go deaf or electrocute myself or something.
"Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned" - Enzo
Re: signal tracer
See:
http://www.geofex.com/FX_images/audioprb.gif
You might also like:
http://www.geofex.com/FX_images/xform_test.gif
http://www.geofex.com/FX_images/audioprb.gif
You might also like:
http://www.geofex.com/FX_images/xform_test.gif
Re: signal tracer
Forgot to mention:
For signal tracing, you often need a signal.
Here's one:
... uh, apparently that file is gone from my page. I'll go see if I can find it. It's a one-transistor oscillator that makes a test tone suitable for running into an amp input.
And here's a fancier one that makes individual notes - kind of.
http://www.geofex.com/FX_images/Fake%20 ... llator.pdf
For signal tracing, you often need a signal.
Here's one:
... uh, apparently that file is gone from my page. I'll go see if I can find it. It's a one-transistor oscillator that makes a test tone suitable for running into an amp input.
And here's a fancier one that makes individual notes - kind of.
http://www.geofex.com/FX_images/Fake%20 ... llator.pdf
Re: signal tracer
R.G. I use the audio probe as a signal injector. Plug it into a walkman and can inject the signal anywhere in the signal path you want to. Have found several problems this way. Thanks for putting it out there.
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terryrocks
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Re: signal tracer
I made one of these for lower voltage projects like 500 series preamps.