Tweed BluezMeister with active FX loop.
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Tweed BluezMeister with active FX loop.
I've seen some threads about small Dumblish style amps in Princeton Reverb size cabs, but I don't know if I've seen a thread about building one into a small "tweed style chassis". 
The TBM is in a 18.5" X 6.5" X 2.5" 18 watt style open end chassis. I actually cut the 20" length down to 18.5"
This amp combo is about the size of a 5E3 combo amp.
5E3 = 20" x 8.5" x 16.5"
TBM = 20.25" x 9.5" x 17"
However, it has clean/OD, PAB, & midboost. And they are all relay foot switchable.
It also has on board an active FX loop. I left out the LNFB around the 2nd triode and I changed some of the component values. The FX loop recovery is essentially my master volume and works quite well, IMO.
What I am trying to do is convey that I have ALOT going on in a very small chassis ............ AND the relay boards are super quiet. They were very very easy to wire up and I actually built a relay power supply board that I mounted on L brackets on the open side of the amp.
The combo amp is so quiet at idle that I can almost not hear it & yet when I hit a chord, it's VERY LOUD with 6L6's in it. I think it would be easy to walk into a room with the amp on and perhaps not hear it at all with it on either clean or OD?
This is a very convenient "grab & go" amp that has a cleaner tone than the 5E3 and waaayyy more overdrive on the OD channel. It has a very clear tone (whether on clean or OD) and has nice sustain and blooming.
I am using a Texas Heat (Emminence speaker).
With respect, 10thtx
			
			
						The TBM is in a 18.5" X 6.5" X 2.5" 18 watt style open end chassis. I actually cut the 20" length down to 18.5"
This amp combo is about the size of a 5E3 combo amp.
5E3 = 20" x 8.5" x 16.5"
TBM = 20.25" x 9.5" x 17"
However, it has clean/OD, PAB, & midboost. And they are all relay foot switchable.
It also has on board an active FX loop. I left out the LNFB around the 2nd triode and I changed some of the component values. The FX loop recovery is essentially my master volume and works quite well, IMO.
What I am trying to do is convey that I have ALOT going on in a very small chassis ............ AND the relay boards are super quiet. They were very very easy to wire up and I actually built a relay power supply board that I mounted on L brackets on the open side of the amp.
The combo amp is so quiet at idle that I can almost not hear it & yet when I hit a chord, it's VERY LOUD with 6L6's in it. I think it would be easy to walk into a room with the amp on and perhaps not hear it at all with it on either clean or OD?
This is a very convenient "grab & go" amp that has a cleaner tone than the 5E3 and waaayyy more overdrive on the OD channel. It has a very clear tone (whether on clean or OD) and has nice sustain and blooming.
I am using a Texas Heat (Emminence speaker).
With respect, 10thtx
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					Last edited by 10thTx on Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:20 am, edited 1 time in total.
									
			
									
						Re: Tweed BluezMeister with active FX loop.
Nice job and nice to look at 10thTx.
I'm curious to hear it.
Congrats!
			
			
									
									I'm curious to hear it.
Congrats!
Horacio
Play in tune and B#!
						Play in tune and B#!
Re: Tweed BluezMeister with active FX loop.
Very nice amp.
Mojo sells blank 5E3 size chassis with two different sized PT cutouts your option. No other holes so that would work great for a project like this one.
Mark
			
			
									
									
						Mojo sells blank 5E3 size chassis with two different sized PT cutouts your option. No other holes so that would work great for a project like this one.
Mark
Re: Tweed BluezMeister with active FX loop.
That mojotone chassis is 14&5/8" X 4&1/4" X 2&5/8". Not sure that the 4&1/4" would be enough to get the relay switching in?blank 5E3 size chassis
VS the TBM chassis 18.5" X 6.5" X 2.5" The chassis is totally packed out with components. No unused real estate in it.
I used a blank 18w chassis off ebay that was only $20.
With respect, 10thtx
Re: Tweed BluezMeister with active FX loop.
I'm curious to hear it.
A quick take. Poor quality recording. I didn't get the mic volume set right and it's a little garbled.
Some EQ, very light compression and slight delay in mix.
Clean and then (at 57 sec) the OD set with a very light OD.
Guitar volume was at 7. Amp volume was at 5. OD trim at 4, OD drive at 3, OD level at 4. Emminence Texas Heat speaker. No PAB or midboost on.
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... i&newref=1
With respect, 10thtx
Re: Tweed BluezMeister with active FX loop.
Thank you 10thTx, notes are round and clear on the clean side, just a touch of delay too much for me to get a more accurate picture of the amp's capabilities, the doubled notes confuse my senses!
On the overdrive side, you are right, it's very slight, but so far seems to be coming along nicely. If you don't mind, and if you have time, maybe you could give us a more raw sound (no effects). Never the less, thank you kindly for your time and effort.
All the best.
			
			
									
									On the overdrive side, you are right, it's very slight, but so far seems to be coming along nicely. If you don't mind, and if you have time, maybe you could give us a more raw sound (no effects). Never the less, thank you kindly for your time and effort.
All the best.
Horacio
Play in tune and B#!
						Play in tune and B#!
Re: Tweed BluezMeister with active FX loop.
OK, I agree that the delay is waaayy too much on that previous.  I listened to it today with headphones instead of the tiny computer speakers. 
I did this one yesterday also. One take. Recording mic still wasn't set correctly, but perhaps it does a better job demo-ing the clean and slight OD settings. It has almost no delay on it (til 2:06).
I admit that the playing and recording is only "OK" at best. The amp honestly sounds much richer and warmer in person.
I have a 12AY7 in both V1 and V2 and a 12AV7 in V3 (FX loop). Putting a 5751 in V2 adds ALOT more OD, but that's not what I was going for. I was using DiMarzio Cruiser pickups which are a low output strat style bucker.
Clean
Very slight OD at 1:26
OD w/mid at 2:06 (but it has more delay on it like the previous clip)
clean w/mid 2:48
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11970143
With respect, 10thtx
			
			
									
									
						I did this one yesterday also. One take. Recording mic still wasn't set correctly, but perhaps it does a better job demo-ing the clean and slight OD settings. It has almost no delay on it (til 2:06).
I admit that the playing and recording is only "OK" at best. The amp honestly sounds much richer and warmer in person.
I have a 12AY7 in both V1 and V2 and a 12AV7 in V3 (FX loop). Putting a 5751 in V2 adds ALOT more OD, but that's not what I was going for. I was using DiMarzio Cruiser pickups which are a low output strat style bucker.
Clean
Very slight OD at 1:26
OD w/mid at 2:06 (but it has more delay on it like the previous clip)
clean w/mid 2:48
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11970143
With respect, 10thtx
Re: Tweed BluezMeister with active FX loop.
Sounds very nice! I am partial to the tones in amps without LNFB at V1. The seem way more open and clear. Very cool tones.....    Congrats.
			
			
									
									
						Re: Tweed BluezMeister with active FX loop.
Much better!
Downloaded your posted docs, will try my version in the future.
Thanks a million.
			
			
									
									Downloaded your posted docs, will try my version in the future.
Thanks a million.
Horacio
Play in tune and B#!
						Play in tune and B#!
Re: Tweed BluezMeister with active FX loop.
If you do build one, I'd love to hear how you like it. I'm loving this in a small grab & go combo.will try my version in the future.
I posted an ExpressSCH editable version of the schematic and layout in this thread. Look for the 10/23/12 post:
https://tubeamparchive.com/viewtopic.php?t=17500
With respect, 10thtx
Re: Tweed BluezMeister with active FX loop.
Thank you 10thTx for sharing your project and for taking your time on the demos.
I have other little projects at the moment (four actually) so it will be sometime next year, I will let you know.
Thanks again.
			
			
									
									I have other little projects at the moment (four actually) so it will be sometime next year, I will let you know.
Thanks again.
Horacio
Play in tune and B#!
						Play in tune and B#!
Re: Tweed BluezMeister with active FX loop.
Just an update on this amp.  I changed the mid and bass caps in the tone stack and added a 220k/500p into V2-7. 
I decided to include a photo of the inside of the chassis. I was very hesitant to do this given how messy it is. However, keep in mine this amp chassis has under gone 4 very different amps being built into it. Despite the mess, it is actually quieter at idle then the original Princeton Reverb I had.
This is a new sound clip ("Sustenance demo") with the active FX on board using 6L6's:
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... i&newref=1
Given the interest shown in the Tweedle Dee as a grab and go Dumblish amp, maybe someone would have some interest in trying to build this one?
With respect, 10thtx
			
			
						I decided to include a photo of the inside of the chassis. I was very hesitant to do this given how messy it is. However, keep in mine this amp chassis has under gone 4 very different amps being built into it. Despite the mess, it is actually quieter at idle then the original Princeton Reverb I had.
This is a new sound clip ("Sustenance demo") with the active FX on board using 6L6's:
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... i&newref=1
Given the interest shown in the Tweedle Dee as a grab and go Dumblish amp, maybe someone would have some interest in trying to build this one?
With respect, 10thtx
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