Need advice from some of you Luthiers out there.
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- LeftyStrat
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Re: Need advice from some of you Luthiers out there.
I came up with the bright idea of using threaded brass inserts. Unfortunately,  the brass inserts cracked when trying to screw them in.
			
			
									
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						Re: Need advice from some of you Luthiers out there.
Even though they appear to be self tapping you need to tap the wood for them if its harder than pine. 
John
			
			
									
									
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Re: Need advice from some of you Luthiers out there.
The thread doesn't seem to be anything standard. Is there a special tap for these.Cantplay wrote:Even though they appear to be self tapping you need to tap the wood for them if its harder than pine.
John
Only thing related I've found is a T Wrench to install them:
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/200104 ... serts.aspx
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						Re: Need advice from some of you Luthiers out there.
Not sure brass is strong enough for the inserts.
The ones I have seen are steel.
			
			
									
									The ones I have seen are steel.
Tom
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Re: Need advice from some of you Luthiers out there.
Ah, those are a special asymetric buttress thread, not even a standard 60° V thread. 
I usually make my own inserts.
If you're in a jam lemme know and I can knock one out for ya.
John
			
			
									
									
						I usually make my own inserts.
If you're in a jam lemme know and I can knock one out for ya.
John
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Re: Need advice from some of you Luthiers out there.
I think I might stew on this a bit. I have a manual mill and metal lathe. The advantage of the BladeRunner tremolo I'm putting on is it doesn't pivot on the screws like the original. It uses a spring steel plate:Cantplay wrote:Ah, those are a special asymetric buttress thread, not even a standard 60° V thread.
I usually make my own inserts.
If you're in a jam lemme know and I can knock one out for ya.
John
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwRqDRIqZIo
So I'm just looking for solid mounting. The inserts I thought would be nice since it would require a bigger hole and I wouldn't run the risk of having to drill on the edge of the plugged holes.
But now I'm concerned as to how that might affect sustain.
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						Re: Need advice from some of you Luthiers out there.
FWIW I heard from my well respected luthier friend that recommended wood dowels and any quality 2 point fulcrum or vintage 6 style screw trem to replace existing.