Peavey Transplant almost done/Jam added
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Peavey Transplant almost done/Jam added
I bought a Peavey Classic VT 50 for $25 on ebay a few months ago. This is a SS preamp tube power amp with built in chorus and reverb, no speakers and the back panel was missing from the cab. Of course I gutted it an used the iron cabinet and chassis for a Dumble clone. 
For this one I use an HRM preamp and an ECL86 reverb. So far it's sounding excellent. I had some difficulty with the OD section, very rip your head off bright and no depth. I traced it down to the coupling between OD1 and OD2. I have the standard .0022uF -> 100K -> 250K pot but until I replaced the .0022uF with a .022uF it sounded terrible.
The ECL86 reverb is excellent. Warm and fat, not really over the top but plenty of depth, enough that I can use a 470K balance resistor instead of the 100K that Glaswerks uses. This means little to no change in the tone with this reverb.
I also found that it sounds better with more NFB. I changed the 4.7K to a 3.3K and it has more of the Dumble feel.
Here's some pics. I record some clips tomorrow when everyone's awake.
Here's a jam I recorded this afternoon. It's just the amp /guitar (Hamer 335 copy) with an SM-57 off axis about 3" away from the speaker. I used the 2x12" Celestion G12H80 cabinet.
http://www.patmedia.net/bob-ingram/DClo ... Reverb.mp3
			
			
						For this one I use an HRM preamp and an ECL86 reverb. So far it's sounding excellent. I had some difficulty with the OD section, very rip your head off bright and no depth. I traced it down to the coupling between OD1 and OD2. I have the standard .0022uF -> 100K -> 250K pot but until I replaced the .0022uF with a .022uF it sounded terrible.
The ECL86 reverb is excellent. Warm and fat, not really over the top but plenty of depth, enough that I can use a 470K balance resistor instead of the 100K that Glaswerks uses. This means little to no change in the tone with this reverb.
I also found that it sounds better with more NFB. I changed the 4.7K to a 3.3K and it has more of the Dumble feel.
Here's some pics. I record some clips tomorrow when everyone's awake.
Here's a jam I recorded this afternoon. It's just the amp /guitar (Hamer 335 copy) with an SM-57 off axis about 3" away from the speaker. I used the 2x12" Celestion G12H80 cabinet.
http://www.patmedia.net/bob-ingram/DClo ... Reverb.mp3
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						Re: Peavey Transplant almost done/Jam added
The faceplate is just a test plate I printed at home. I'll have Kinko's print one and install that later. I also found some nice 3/64" brass rod at a Post Hardware close by that I used for the ground bus.
			
			
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Looks good, Bob. That Traynor chassis has acres of real estate!  
			
			
									
									
						
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Um.... that's a Peavey.Normster wrote:Looks good, Bob. That Traynor chassis has acres of real estate!

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Bob-I..if it's not too much to ask can you post the schem for this amp,or at least the part where you grafted the ECL86 reverb?
Thanks a million
Aharon
			
			
									
									Thanks a million
Aharon
Aharon
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Hey Bob,
how does the ECL86 reverb compare to the 12AX7 single tube reverb?
Your pics make me wan't to get started with my build 
 
 
 
Markus
			
			
									
									
						how does the ECL86 reverb compare to the 12AX7 single tube reverb?
Your pics make me wan't to get started with my build
 
 Would be cool! Thanks a lot tooBob-I..if it's not too much to ask can you post the schem for this amp,or at least the part where you grafted the ECL86 reverb?
Thanks a million
Aharon
 
 Markus
Re: Peavey Transplant almost done/Jam added
I've already posted the ECL86 reverb on the files page although I used a smaller screen resistor on this one, and added a 200K grid load to the triode side. I'll post the complete HRM/Reverb when I'm happy with the results. 
The ECL86 drives the reverb harder so you get more depth to the reverb. I also find it's fuller sounding than the 12AX7 reverb. Most important, it was fun to do.
			
			
									
									
						The ECL86 drives the reverb harder so you get more depth to the reverb. I also find it's fuller sounding than the 12AX7 reverb. Most important, it was fun to do.
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Thanks Bob-I.........I thank you again for that reverb schem you posted on the other thread.
I'm a little short on theory so mostly I need to follow a schem to make sure it turns out right.I guess a 5k/8 ohm transformer will do for the ECL86...right?.
Great looking amp you got there.
Aharon
			
			
									
									I'm a little short on theory so mostly I need to follow a schem to make sure it turns out right.I guess a 5k/8 ohm transformer will do for the ECL86...right?.
Great looking amp you got there.
Aharon
Aharon
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Yes, I used a standard Fender xformer and 3 spring tank.Aharon wrote:Thanks Bob-I.........I thank you again for that reverb schem you posted on the other thread.
I'm a little short on theory so mostly I need to follow a schem to make sure it turns out right.I guess a 5k/8 ohm transformer will do for the ECL86...right?.
Great looking amp you got there.
Aharon
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Good Lookin build Bob, I enjoyed the sound clip, I noticed a slight breakup of your lead note's when you pushed the amp, I liked that, What was your tube sellection on this build ?
Johnhenry
			
			
									
									
						Johnhenry
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Bob-I wrote:I've already posted the ECL86 reverb on the files page although I used a smaller screen resistor on this one, and added a 200K grid load to the triode side. I'll post the complete HRM/Reverb when I'm happy with the results.
The ECL86 drives the reverb harder so you get more depth to the reverb. I also find it's fuller sounding than the 12AX7 reverb. Most important, it was fun to do.
Thanks a lot!
Seems I found "my" reverb section
 
 Markus
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One more question: how does the 470k resistor compared to a 100k (I assume for the dry signal?) affect the tone, or actually not affect tone?enough that I can use a 470K balance resistor instead of the 100K that Glaswerks uses. This means little to no change in the tone with this reverb.
 
 Markus
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Yea, I adjusted the gains so that I had to push a bit to get the breakup. Very sensitive that way.Johnhenry wrote:Good Lookin build Bob, I enjoyed the sound clip, I noticed a slight breakup of your lead note's when you pushed the amp, I liked that, What was your tube sellection on this build ?
Johnhenry
I have EH12AX7's in V1 and V2, V3 is the reverb ECL86 labeled InternationalC Servicemaster, V4 is the PI which is a JJ ECC83S and the power tubes are JJ 6L6GC.
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Well, Bob, That MP3 got me Droolin,   I can DIGGIT, I gotta build one now, what tranny's did you use if you don't mind tellin me ! and i'm gonna check out your Layout, I've read your post's on this but I'll go reread them again, I got a 1X12 Combo that'll serve as a start for this project. any advice you might offer would also help !
 I can DIGGIT, I gotta build one now, what tranny's did you use if you don't mind tellin me ! and i'm gonna check out your Layout, I've read your post's on this but I'll go reread them again, I got a 1X12 Combo that'll serve as a start for this project. any advice you might offer would also help !
John
			
			
									
									
						 I can DIGGIT, I gotta build one now, what tranny's did you use if you don't mind tellin me ! and i'm gonna check out your Layout, I've read your post's on this but I'll go reread them again, I got a 1X12 Combo that'll serve as a start for this project. any advice you might offer would also help !
 I can DIGGIT, I gotta build one now, what tranny's did you use if you don't mind tellin me ! and i'm gonna check out your Layout, I've read your post's on this but I'll go reread them again, I got a 1X12 Combo that'll serve as a start for this project. any advice you might offer would also help !John
