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Smokebreak
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Pro jr help

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Im havin a helluva time with this little guy. Came in with "it just stopped working, it needs new tubes". Customer kept mentioning something about "I hope my Swart attenuator didn't fry something..."
He was getting no sound at all upon failure. After I replaced and biased the outputs, I got sound, but some pretty nasty sputtery spitty distorted stuff. At this point, I've replaced all 3 filter caps, the volume pot(had a faulty one exhibit this behavior in the past in a pro jr), every coupling cap, speaker, and every tube. Gotta be the OT, right? Nope, stuck an Edcor in there real quick and no change.
I'm gonna check everything again, but all voltages looked solid, no funny business, screen Rs measure fine, as does every other resistor in the amp. Sockets are solid, any and all jiggling/chopsticking reveals nothing. I've also replaced the input and speaker jack. I have damn near rebuilt this amp.

To me it sounds like it's missing a reference to ground somewhere. Upon going down that route, I realized this amp has no circuit ground connection to chassis. That's fine but it's throwing me for a loop, as voltage reading across the 1st filter cap, on the board, reads 350VDC, but a reading from the + of the same cap to the chassi reads 345VDC, and I'm showing around 90K resistance from circuit ground to chassis??? Again, no continuity from any board ground to chassis. I slapped a wire from signal ground to chassis, and all it did was quiet some hum ;)

The other thing that seems like it's come up in the past but I can't place it, is that when the amp gets turned off, everything sounds great and normal for that 3 seconds as the sound dies.

Any ideas?
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Re: Pro jr help

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I'm an idiot. I grabbed the nearest 9 pin bias check and had it plugged into voltage not current setting. Forgot that's my one checker that actually measures current and not mV that you interpret as mA. Turns out the tubes were barely conducting. This is the most tricked out Blues Jr ever now!
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So it's up and running now?
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Re: Pro jr help

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Yep, its got a bunch of nice new components, too ;)
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Re: Pro jr help

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Not the worst outcome. Pro Juniors are decent sounding amps when you hit their sweet spots, and now that one probably sounds even better :)
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It actually did sound good. Owner had me put a 10" jenson alnico in there, and I biased at around 20mA. Owner was thrilled it broke up earlier/had less headroom.
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