Another "SSS"....

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Another "SSS"....

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Interesting "The buyer will need to sign a contract not to disclose any of the internal wiring or design of this amp."

Nice cab, sorry if this is old news....

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hamiltone-Stevie-Ra ... 563eb38611
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I think this amp has been listed before.
The cabinet looks familiar with the inlay around the valance.

Interesting it has a steel chassis.

Did HAD ever make a 100w SSS?
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John_P_WI wrote: "The buyer will need to sign a contract not to disclose any of the internal wiring or design of this amp."
Marketing BS at it's finest! :D
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+1! And not even a backplate on it for six grand! Not to mention no FX loop.
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Structo wrote:
Did had ever make a 100w SSS?
I am pretty sure that there were 100W versions of the SSS. I think HK's SSS is 6L6 bsaed.
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However, it has magical properties that allow it to float on a cushion of air.



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Re: Another "SSS"....

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That photoshop job is hack.
First think I noticed though were the cheap RCA cables.

The amp has been brought up here before, do a quick search, you'll find it.
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IF I was to spend $6k on an amp, I would do whatever I damn well pleased with it. If they don't want anyone to see inside then keep the amps to themselves. They copy an amp but don't want any one copying their amp. What a maroon!!! Boy I could buy a $hitload of parts for $6k!!!!!
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The thing is, isn't a big part of the SSS design the rotary filter switches for the high and low frequencies?

The way they have the front panel, it just looks like a clean amp with reverb.
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Structo wrote:However, it has magical properties that allow it to float on a cushion of air.
Like a "football field filled with marshmallows" :-)
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Re: Another "SSS"....

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Structo wrote:
Did HAD ever make a 100w SSS?
Tom,

The first 3 or 4 SSS were 100w (John Mayer owns a 100w SSS with serial #2)



I sent this guy a message a few months ago and he gave me an answer to all my questions.

I asked, Is this a clone of a SSS

"I spent a bunch of time with SRV's SSS and this amp is a clone of it"

That is false as SRV's SSS was 150w with filters/reverb on the front panel

I asked where the filters were, here is what he said:

"Didn't you know that the filters were set internally on the sss"

That statement is false, the filters on most/all SSS are rotary switches that the user can adjust from OUTSIDE the amp

I asked him why there was no passive loop to run time based effects and/or D-lator into like the original, he said

"There is no need for an effects loop"


The pictures make this amp look huge but it is only the size of a regular ODS chassis, All 100w SSS were made on huge chassis to accommodate the HAD PCB's surrounding tube sockets. It is IMHO that this amp is simply an ODS without the OD and Reverb added. He will not post any VIDS or soundbites of the amp but swears up and down that its the SRV tone. I am not mocking this guy, this is actually what he said to me.
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Re: Another "SSS"....

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Did all SSS have the pcb around the tube sockets?
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Not sure about that, but you don't have to build it that way. I'm grappling with that now.

SRV's SSS was 150W, 4x6550. It was according to HAD "more like a bass amp", however he didn't specify in any detail how "much more".

AFAIK all 150W SSS (after the first four, which are 100w 6L6GC) are 4x6550, ~500V plate and screen, plus 6x12AX7 including drivers and PI but (I think) excluding a buffered FX loop. If anyone knows of an SSS with a buffered FX loop, please advise.

SRV's amp was likely more towards a Dumbleland, which may point to a 12AU7/12BH7 PI/driver rather than the standard 12AX7/12AX7. If so that would require considerably more bias current than the 2x12AX7 arrg't.

It wouldn't be the first time a bass amp made it for guitar, now would it?

Back on topic, this "Hamiltone" is a disgracefully shameless piece of "marketing", I have an MBA and this s**t really chokes me up, SRV's were as described above and nothing like this, which is an ODS without the OD.
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David Root wrote:...plus 6x12AX7 including drivers and PI but (I think) excluding a buffered FX loop. If anyone knows of an SSS with a buffered FX loop, please advise.
6 x 12AX7s...

2 for the PI/driver

3 for the pre-amp (assuming fender-based with reverb)

I notice the first SSS had tremelo, which would account for the final twin-triode...but I haven't seen any other like that. What is the last one for, if not tremelo...any guesses? Maybe 2 & 1/2 instead of 1 & 1/2 for the reverb, like the ODS Reverb amps?
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