new speaker suggestions for Liverpool

[ampman1961]

Billy

If you get a chance, try a pair of Golds in an open-backed cab with a quad of Scumbacks M75s or other another good Greenback type speaker in a Marshall-style cab. The high sensitivity of the Golds balances out nicely with the quad of Scumbacks and works really well with the Liverpool or Express.

It makes for a seriously loud (nearly) full stack, but sounds fantastic with it!

Thanks Paul.
I may at some point. For now, what we are experiencing with the Gold's and 12L's is very gratifying. I forgot to mention, that we were also given the new Heritage G12 30H 55hz Greenback to try out. Again, another palette of tonal colors to play around with. I liked it as well but only got a short time to play through it before it went on display at our dealer. I may have to revisit that one. I always encourage our clients to try as many flavors as possible so they can narrow down what works best for the individual.
When we tried the Scumback's at my old recording studio, they were loaded into a vintage slant cabinet in an arrangement that allowed us to to mike each speaker individually, for each model installed. We used my Express to try each one, and in combination with another slant loaded with vintage G12 25's.
That arrangement pushed a lot of air, was very loud, and sounded pretty awesome. It has been a couple of years since all of that happened, so my memory has dimmed about the details somewhat.
Since then, my approach has been to concentrate on single speaker arrangements in a well tuned hardwood cabinet utilizing Sitka Spruce for the sound board, much like an acoustic guitar. When coupled to the floor, using the G12 50 Alnico, I was completely blown away at how good it sounded. The Les Paul, SG, Telecaster and Carruthers CSA all sounded stellar. I felt that finally I had the balance and sensitivity that a good Alnico is known for, but power handling that my amps require. My all time favorite speaker is the 15 watt G12 found in Early AC30's and I am certainly not alone in that camp! For good reason too. Now I can have my cake and eat it too. It seems to me, that Celestion has woken up and tried hard to take the company up a few notches to where they should be. The samples we have tried so far have been extremely consistent. The same is true with the Fane Studio 12L. I am awaiting to try one of Darin's AXA's soon. Many have spoken very highly of them.
In short, the single speaker cab approach is very attractive to us older folks who do not want to drag a heavy loaded cabinet to every gig.
Also, in my experience on the road and in the studio, single speaker cabinets always sound better to me. There is not an interaction problem between two transducers to deal with either, and the size and weight is very manageable. They are much easier to mic up and when you need more SPL, add another cabinet, and splay them for best coverage. It's impossible to do that with a normal 2-12 & 4-12 arrangement.
We look forward to trying other speaker options too.

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Hey, this was a good exchange of info/opinions and I didn't mind Jim defending his product in the least. In fact, I would have been surprised if he didn't. Oh, was he attacked? Well, hmm, GM makes a few different brands of cars. If somebody said on a public forum that the Cadillac line was a dressed up Buick product - and you sold Cadillacs - well, I think you are entitled to ask that person who said it, what items you could add to the Buick to make it a Cadillac. And that's what Jim did. Hell, frankly, I was hoping it was as simple as an emblem or a paint job.....

Dartanion, the link to the sound files was just killer! Leave it to the English to figure out a way to display audio comparisons accurately. Well, to my ear anyway. I really wouldn't disagree with anything there - you can even hear the volume increases with certain speakers. Crazy.